.41 Mag Association

NeroM said:
Agree LongShot works well in 41 Mag, 44 Mag and 45 Colt, especially "medium" loads.
In 41 Mag, approx 9.5 gr LongShot with 215 gr SWC - yields approx 1200 fps.
In 44 Mag, around 10 gr with 260 gr LBT - results around 1040 fps.
For a +P load in 45 Colt, 9.5 gr with 275 gr SAA bullet gets approx 950 fps from a M25.
Any data I use, is at your own risk.
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"+p 45 Colt" has some risk too and needs to be in the right gun.
 
RealGun said:
"+p 45 Colt" has some risk too and needs to be in the right gun.
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Exactly why I mentioned +p.
While the load is probably more along the line of "mid range" - <20k psi,
Don't want to suggest anyone should shoot this load in their SAA or clone,
Thus the M25 suggestion. I use the load in an M25.
 
336A said:
So what cast bullets are you folks using in your your .41's. I've got some test loads made up using the common 215gr SWC from Leadhead. I have ten each ready to go with 8.5gr, 8.7gr, 8.9gr and 9.1gr of Unique.
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I’m using a 220 gr. Plain base powder coated bullet from an Arsenal (very similar to NOE) mold. I sized these to .410” and used 9.0 gr. Longshot over a CCI 350 mag. Primer. So far, these have been the dead on, most accurate loads I have shot from that gun. It’s a Smith 57 6” barreled.
 
My best friend passed away in 2008. His widow finally decided she could part with some of his guns. I was fortunate to have the opportunity to buy his Dan Wesson .41 Mag. with both the 4" bbl and the 8"bbl, finally making me a bonifide member of the .41 Magnum Society!
The 8" bbl came on the frame and with a 2x Leupold scope mounted. There was a hoard of about 200 rounds Russ had loaded that were mid-range plus a tiny bit and they shot 1.5" groups at 25 yards off sand bag rest.

I'm thinking of using it for opening day deer season this year using Russ's handloads. I think he would appreciate that. :)
 
Poper said:
Last year, I shot my deer at about 35 yards with a Tikka in .270 Win. I plan to hunt the same patch this year with the DW. :thumbup:
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That right there is the reason I stopped hunting with a .30-06. I realized, after 10 years of hunting, that the longest shot I ever took was about 80 yards (that with a side-hammer muzzleloader). I hunted pretty thick woods and riverbanks.

A revolver became my choice, in 44 Mag because that's what I had.
 
Hooda Thunkit said:
That right there is the reason I stopped hunting with a .30-06. I realized, after 10 years of hunting, that the longest shot I ever took was about 80 yards (that with a side-hammer muzzleloader). I hunted pretty thick woods and riverbanks.

A revolver became my choice, in 44 Mag because that's what I had.
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Funny! :D
My settin' place was next to a fence post on the edge of an alfalfa field. Wide open with the possibilty of seeing game farther than a .270 will shoot. I have hunted that patch before and so far the longest shot I have had to take was about 70 yards. Position, reading the terrain and being able to be still and/or stealthy is most of what it takes to get a good, clean, close shot. JMHO, of course.
This is why I am opting to hunt with Russ's .41 Mag. this year. I just want to prove him right, I guess. ;) :D :D
 
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Well, my 41Mag collection is going up by three. LGS buddy bought out 80+guns from an estate. My grail gun has been a Marlin 1894FG lever gun and I brought it home, also brought a Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt home. Ohio law makes me wait 5 business days between handgun purchases or more paperwork to the Sheriff. Will have to wait "til Friday to pick up the S&W 657-5 and 5 more for a Taurus Raging Bull. I already have a Raging Bull in 454 and like the way it shoots, so a no brainer on it. I could have bought these previously, but no way I was paying "Gun Broke" prices.
 
It's amazing that this thread goes strong for more than 10 years. Thanks to all who shared very useful information about 41 magnum. Here are some posts from another thread "Lipsey & Ruger…ask for a GP100 in 41 Magnum!!!" https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/lipsey-ruger…ask-for-a-gp100-in-41-magnum.898006/page-4 , explaining to those new to 41 Magnum, why this cartridge has so loyal shooters.

I foolishly sold Bisley, when retired and moved overseas. I just wanted all my revolvers stainless. Unfortunately, 41 magnum Bisley in stainless wasn't available in my area, and even those manufactured were special edition, read, quite scarce, never imported in Canada.

I recently started target shooting and trying to organize half scale silhouettes, thinking that 357 and 44 will be more than enough. Well, I was wrong, realized how much I am missing 41 Bisley, with 7.5" barrel, and started searching now for another one. Unfortunately, such revolver is hard to find one in my neck of the woods.

Anyhow, hoping to eventually get one in nice condition, so I started thinking about appropriate bullet. Since I want to shot targets and silhouettes, I came to conclusion that ideal bullet, that will cover both disciplines, will be good, old SWC. Considering that the latest (as far as I know) and the best Keith's designed SWC was #503, I started thinking about scaling this design to 41 cal., to get bullet with 220-230 grains weight:

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After noticing on the range that conical nose bullet has bit sharper cut holes on paper than tangent nose one (although with 357/38 bullets), I also designed conical nose version.

I had conversation with a fellow shooter, very experienced and highly successful in local competition, and he suggested also to consider multi-groove design of those two versions. Once I am ready, I will ask http://arsenalmolds.com/ to see if they could make a mold with 4 cavities for bullets above. Idea is to test each design, find out which one is the most accurate, and order 4 or 5 cavity mold for that particular bullet.

Hopefully, ball will start rolling next spring. Will keep you posted.
 
Onty said:
Anyhow, hoping to eventually get one in nice condition, so I started thinking about appropriate bullet. Since I want to shot targets and silhouettes, I came to conclusion that ideal bullet, that will cover both disciplines, will be good, old SWC. Considering that the latest (as far as I know) and the best Keith's designed SWC was #503, I started thinking about scaling this design to 41 cal., to get bullet with 220-230 grains weight:

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After noticing on the range that conical nose bullet has bit sharper cut holes on paper than tangent nose one (although with 357/38 bullets), I also designed conical nose version.

I had conversation with a fellow shooter, very experienced and highly successful in local competition, and he suggested also to consider multi-groove design of those two versions. Once I am ready, I will ask http://arsenalmolds.com/ to see if they could make a mold with 4 cavities for bullets above. Idea is to test each design, find out which one is the most accurate, and order 4 or 5 cavity mold for that particular bullet.

Hopefully, ball will start rolling next spring. Will keep you posted.
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Take a look at GT bullets, they produce a .41 SWC similar to your description. I have not tried it, as I usually load an LBT design.
 
Here is Accurate Bullet Molds version....good outfit. I ordered a mold from them last June and received it in less than two weeks. They do aluminum, brass or steel, your option. Great machining...Rod

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Here's the RCBS version: 41-215; an excellent bullet that I really REALLY like. It's good in my two Rugers, a Smith M-57 and Marlin .41 Mag 1894S.

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Rodfac said:
and Marlin .41 Mag 1894S.
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The RCBS 215 is a standard and works really well in pretty much everything. I had a gaggle of ~220grn Keith bullets given to me, looking very similar to that 41-225K bullet above... those bullets would not cycle in my 1894FG without them being allllll the way back on the carrier. Having to 'muzzle up' and give the lever a little love jiggle every shot wasn't really the hot setup for the dueling tree... Having said that, it was a really nice bullet in the revolvers... I was sad when they ran out...

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Hey Charlie, I too have to give the lever a little jiggle to get the RCBS bullet to cycle but never had any luck whatsoever with Lyman's otherwise excellent 410459. There's a fix for the Marlin LSWC feeding issues; that involves honing a radius on the top of the barrel extension as it appears in the loading window...not something I'm willing to venture in my 1894S...I spent 15 years just trying to find one at a realistic price to chance my screwing it up...others have done well with the "fix" however. Best regards, Rod
 
Rodfac said:
Hey Charlie, I too have to give the lever a little jiggle to get the RCBS bullet to cycle but never had any luck whatsoever with Lyman's otherwise excellent 410459. There's a fix for the Marlin LSWC feeding issues; that involves honing a radius on the top of the barrel extension as it appears in the loading window...not something I'm willing to venture in my 1894S...I spent 15 years just trying to find one at a realistic price to chance my screwing it up...others have done well with the "fix" however. Best regards, Rod
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That's the only bullet that's given me troubles... the standard RCBS 215grn does not, nor even something like the WFN 250grn Cast Performance bullet. OAL is definitely the Marlin's bug-a-boo.

Congrats on your C-Marlin! I really wanted one of those, but settled for an FG... that I've since switched to a straight grip/lever. Yes, I know I've destroyed the resale value... but it's not for sale.
 
Would deep seating it over the driving band let it chamber? I know you'd have to modify the load, so if'n you use it in revolvers also you probably don't want to do that. But, again you might like it in both.
 
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