Ten Million And One Unique Scenarios

I'd feel comfortable roaming this land with a 4" .357 Mag. Except Alaska. My 1911 covers 90% of that, except Grizzly country.

Really. What Entropy said. That’s the answer. A good .357 Magnum will cover just about any situation you may come across.

I carry appendix. 3” or a little less barrel works better for me.

I live in the High Desert of Nevada. The vast majority of the time, I carry a version of this:



If not the SP101. Maybe a 3” 65 or a speed Six.

The 158 gr hardcast will drop anything on two or 4 legs I may come across. The rat shot anything that slithers.

I don’t think I’m gonna get in a protracted gunfight against a gang of thugs. Honestly, against more than two determined opponents, all those extra magazines aren’t likely to save you. You will either win, they will, or they will leave you alone before the first reload comes up.

If I’m going to Vegas, I’ll likely carry an auto. With extra mags. I got that. My odds are better. But honestly. That’s enough for 98% of my life.

Mr. Mosin said:

People tend to forget that “one size” does *not* in fact, “fit all”, and we are especially prone to such in the firearms community. Each and every individual’s capability, situations both physically and financially, and ten thousand other factors all play into what is “the best” for any given individual in any given situation.

Click to expand...

I'm gonna go with Kleanbore on this one. Thats why so many different guns are made and offered. Thats why I have so many of the varieties offered. And I'm just a beginner compared to some here. Like mentioned a 357 will do about all anyone needs done in the civilian world. I have seen plenty of threads here on whats the best. And so far the "Best" has never been found or defined. Some just carry what they have. Thankfully most will never need what they have. No matter if its the best or not.

Mr. Mosin said:

“What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”

Click to expand...

I’m not sure your using this right. Lol

Mr. Mosin said:

People tend to forget that “one size” does *not* in fact, “fit all”, and we are especially prone to such in the firearms community. Each and every individual’s capability, situations both physically and financially, and ten thousand other factors all play into what is “the best” for any given individual in any given situation.

Click to expand...

So what is your carry gun of choice and how often do you carry it? You start lots of threads but never mention what you carry on a daily basis. I would like to see some pictures of the Rosco's you own.

Maybe not the best but my CCWs are pretty much geared for a more urban environment. Don't know of any bears around here unless they're lost or have escaped from captivity somewhere, so no pressing need or use for anti-bear weaponry. Only troublesome creatures in these parts are coyotes but that's in the few rural areas that border the larger cities. For EDC I have a Kahr CM9 and two S&W J frames; a Model 649 and a Model 638. All three are used DAO and have very similar and rather consistent DA triggers on all of them.

And when the weather gets cooler (and then colder), calling for a coat or jacket, then I might take along my Ruger SR9c or one of my CZs: a P01 or a P07, in place of my EDC.

I always found one gun for people was pretty simple, and these days, its a Glock 17. Except for the odd day or two out of the year, I carry it all day every day and with no trouble at all. In the fashion world, Glocks are amazing too, they seem to just go with everything.

If I were to be worried about critters, which normally Im not, Id just add another more appropriate gun geared towards them. The Glock is just day to day PPE, everything else just supplements it.

bannockburn said:

Don't know of any bears around here unless they're lost or have escaped from captivity somewhere, so no pressing need or use for anti-bear weaponry.

Click to expand...

Ha! Ha! Ha! That made me laugh a little, bannockburn! It made me remember back to 1995, when as improbable as it seems, people in Lava Hot Springs (about 10 miles east of here) were spotting African lions in their backyards occasionally.
https://www.idahostatejournal.com/m...cle_30945950-b51f-508e-a01f-9a86ced34f15.html
BTW, several years before the authorities finally shut Ligertown down, my wife and son-in-law spotted 2 wolves one morning while we were deer hunting over towards Lava Hot Springs, and that was before wolves were re-introduced in the middle part of Idaho. Besides, there's still not supposed to be any wolves in this part of the state.
Anyway, I believed my wife and son-in-law saw what they said they saw, so a couple of days later, we went to the Fish & Game Department and reported it. Of course the F&G Department folks kinda poo-pooed it - they said my wife and son-in-law probably saw a couple of "big coyotes." I wonder if anyone at the F&G Department thought back on that "big coyotes" thing a few years later when it was discovered that Ligertown had wolves, as well as lions and tigers going in and out of their cages practically at will.

.308Norma

I wonder if anyone at the F&G Department thought back on that "big coyotes" thing a few years later when it was discovered that Ligertown had wolves, as well as lions and tigers going in and out of their cages practically at will.

Click to expand...

Sounds like the folks at the Fish and Game Department need to update their indigenous wildlife to include Wolves to the old "Lions and Tigers and Bears! Oh my!" routine!

For me a S&W model 442 or Beretta 25 auto do what I need. I tried the EC9 in a pocket but its a tight fit. I need to order another Bulldog belt slide and carry it on my waist. I really like that gun and the trigger on it. The trigger is one of the best I have ever used on a striker fired auto. I'm revolver guy at heart and like those the most.

One thing about having a gun on you or for me at least it seems to make me much more vigilant about whats going on around me. I scan constantly. I did that anyway but now I am on high alert the whole time.

"good for the goose" (I think) is based on something like if the guy can do it, (aka a night out with the guys), then it only fair a woman can do it too (a night out with the girls). At least that is the way I understood that saying. This is an old saying, and probably not as applicable in this day and age.

As for carry, everything is a compromise, I don't carry an AR into town, and I would not carry a .25 auto into the Alaska wilderness as a bear gun. I do agree with 4" .357 (GP-100 for me) as a good compromise weapon for when I do both regularly (we don't have Grizzly where I live just black bears).

For normal carry, 9mm is probably the most common compromise, though there are some that will choose to carry anything from a rimfire to a .44 Mag.

Situations differ also, physical limitations (carpal tunnel, arthritis, etc), need for concealability, finances might make you decide to have a less expensive firearm (Hi-point vs Colt or Kimber, etc.), or maybe you only own a .22 that was handed down and can't afford to upgrade, or, can't shoot anything else well enough to feel confident.

In my younger days, I had a .22 and a single action and a single shot 12 GA, and that was all I had, so that is what I used to protect my homestead.

d

Since the state I live in has had a CCW permit for 18 years or so, I have had quite a journey of what I carry. Starting with a full size single action (condition one) to a S&W J frame and a speed strip. I have a list of handguns to long to mention. Most recently a Sig P365 and then trying a Beretta 92x compact. All good guns, but when heading out the door, I seem to always reach for my five shot Smith. It seems to me what you carry is kinda a combination of what is comfortable and the perceived risk in your neck of the woods.

I have an assortment of handguns but with that said I have a predominate singular concealed carry which is a S&W Shield 9X19mm with a capacity of 8 plus 1. If for some unusual reason, I decide to also carry a backup it's a S&W M640 38Sp I simply do not do the weapon rotation gun of the hour, day or whatever.

A 4” barreled, N frame, chambered for the 45 ACP cartridge has been all I have needed since the 1980s. You are, of course, entitled to your own choice.


Kevin

I live in Ohio. The biggest thing we have is black bear. My full-size 9mm is more than enough to kill a black bear. So yes, in Ohio, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

If you live in Montana or Alaska, then that might be different, as grizzlies tend to enjoy using 9mm handguns for retaliatory sodomy after getting shot with one. We're getting into .44 mag and 10mm hardcast territory at that point.

sgt127 said:

Really. What Entropy said. That’s the answer. A good .357 Magnum will cover just about any situation you may come across.

I carry appendix. 3” or a little less barrel works better for me.

I live in the High Desert of Nevada. The vast majority of the time, I carry a version of this:

View attachment 1045339

If not the SP101. Maybe a 3” 65 or a speed Six.

The 158 gr hardcast will drop anything on two or 4 legs I may come across. The rat shot anything that slithers.

I don’t think I’m gonna get in a protracted gunfight against a gang of thugs. Honestly, against more than two determined opponents, all those extra magazines aren’t likely to save you. You will either win, they will, or they will leave you alone before the first reload comes up.

If I’m going to Vegas, I’ll likely carry an auto. With extra mags. I got that. My odds are better. But honestly. That’s enough for 98% of my life.

View attachment 1045340

Click to expand...

You don't need a semi-automatic pistol in Vegas, your ratshot will already take out a casino lobby.

Carry what you need and need what you carry. I carry two, a 380 Kel-Tec and a 45 ACP LDA. Then there is the titanium mechanical pencil and the Gramillion auto by Benchmade.

Is this just another thread for rationalizing carry of mouse guns in sub-optimal calibers?

Or is there actually a point? Sorry, OP, not seeing a clear message here.

Even looking at things from a poor person's viewpoint, there exist plenty of very inexpensive, yet viable, reliable options out there.

I wouldn't shoot a black bear in Western Pennsylvania with a 9mm unless I was being attacked and had no choice. They get to big there. I lived there for my first 50 years and the big bore that would visit us in my back yard weighed 609lb dressed out. (He got shot in bear season one year). I don't think a 9mm would do much to a bear that size except make it madder than it already was.
I would use a 41 magnum and up if I carried in the woods there but I seldom carried unless it was deer season.

This big boy and his sows would visit our house on an almost daily through July and August on the way to the huckleberry fields on top of the mile long hill of deep woods, we lived on. Our back yard was carved out of the woods and we had a spring in the back of it where they would drink. He was huge and had a squared off muzzle like a dog. He would always stop and look around to see if he could see me outside. Once he did he would continue on his way.
They never bothered me, other than coming up on our deck and standing up to look in our kitchen window now and then.

We didn't feed them, including no bird feeders, and they didn't bother us other then to stop and say hello once in a while.
I miss living there, we had Bobcats, Cougars, Bear,deer, lots of Turkey, Grouse, then the Coyotes showed up out of no where.

Wonder where they came from?

I don’t know about you all but i carry a G43x or G19 as my CCW and G17/35 as my Duty Weapon. If i need anything bigger a Glock 41 will do, if not, I’m bringing a Rifle. But as of now, a Glock 19 will work for 95% of my needs.

I don't have either an answer or anything to add, just that I get a kick out of Mr. Mosin's unique perspectives and questions. Always gets spirited discussions going. Keep it up.
Stan