Mr_Flintstone
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Why don’t we figure the time it takes to shoot ammo into the cost of a gun?The equations for the costs of reloading never seem to have a factor for the time commitment of the loader.
Why don’t we figure the time it takes to shoot ammo into the cost of a gun?The equations for the costs of reloading never seem to have a factor for the time commitment of the loader.
You really think that's going to happen? I don't think they'll go below 62.00 per 1000.We turned the corner but we are still on top of the mountain. When primers are available under $45 a thousand and stay available I'll be happy.
Ah, the age old “how much is it costing me not to be watching TV” conundrum.
Why don’t we figure the time it takes to shoot ammo into the cost of a gun?
Well, we don’t think of adding the time spent shooting guns in with the price of the gun because it is something we like to do. We don’t consider it work. That’s the way I look at reloading. I don’t consider the time I spend loading as work because I enjoy it. Looking at it another way, we choose to do all kinds of things in life for ourselves. Whether we enjoy it or not, we are doing it for ourselves. We will never get any pay for our own personal endeavors except the enjoyment we get either from the job itself or the end result of the job.Another "What?"
For me, I pay attention to the time required for bulk stuff when I am short on time. Otherwise, it is a hobby I enjoy spending time at, same as casting, cooking, brewing beer, leatherworking, beekeeping, etc.
Well, we don’t think of adding the time spent shooting guns in with the price of the gun because it is something we like to do. We don’t consider it work. That’s the way I look at reloading. I don’t consider the time I spend loading as work because I enjoy it. Looking at it another way, we choose to do all kinds of things in life for ourselves. Whether we enjoy it or not, we are doing it for ourselves. We will never get any pay for our own personal endeavors except the enjoyment we get either from the job itself or the end result of the job.
That’s kind of a circular argument. Using that line of reasoning, you could just as easily say “Son, I am going to miss your baseball game today because I’m going on a range trip with the guys". I’m going to assume you just don’t like to reload, and choose not to do it if you don’t have to. Nothing wrong with that, but you can’t use time as a limiting factor for one thing and not for the other.Yes- Your personal time is required to shoot firearms. However, extensive personal time is not required to obtain ammo, beyond the effort for purchase.
"Son, I am going to miss your baseball game today because I need to track down components and load ammo for a range trip with the guys" Yeah- not happening.
Does time here on the forum in the reloading room go against the time cost of reloading or in the time doesn't count shooting section? It's just time doing what I want in my book.Yes- Your personal time is required to shoot firearms. However, extensive personal time is not required to obtain ammo, beyond the effort for purchase.
"Son, I am going to miss your baseball game today because I need to track down components and load ammo for a range trip with the guys" Yeah- not happening.
10X $$$$$ ! nice almost better than bitconsBack around Y2K+1 I stocked up on factory Speer and CCI 9mm blasting garbage; aluminum case and 115gr FMJ. Did the same thing with some surplus .38Spl - French Gevelot and USAF M48. Come 2020 I sold all (well, most) to a LGS for 10x what I paid. Sold my box hunting ammo I got on sale for $4-5/box around the same time to a hunt club for $20/box. The advantage to buying box ammo is you can resell it for a good profit later on and still not be gouging.
That’s kind of a circular argument. Using that line of reasoning, you could just as easily say “Son, I am going to miss your baseball game today because I’m going on a range trip with the guys". I’m going to assume you just don’t like to reload, and choose not to do it if you don’t have to. Nothing wrong with that, but you can’t use time as a limiting factor for one thing and not for the other.
Does time here on the forum in the reloading room go against the time cost of reloading or in the time doesn't count shooting section? It's just time doing what I want in my book.
Reloading time and forum time add to the value of the ammo. I my reloads should be worth $1 each thenDoes time here on the forum in the reloading room go against the time cost of reloading or in the time doesn't count shooting section? It's just time doing what I want in my book.
I look at cheap HP ammo and be like.. I can pull that and make them +P+No conflict of reasoning if you have solid life priorities. My interest and joy in reloading is to obtain specialty ammo, like BP .45-70-500, or something like 200 gr .38 Special Super Police, NOT common range fodder. I don't look at a box of 9mm FMJ for $19, and think to myself I could load that for half (or whatever less than number).
The equations for the costs of reloading never seem to have a factor for the time commitment of the loader.
I am entertained by how people value their time. How can they afford to sleep, eat or watch tv. Reloading is a source of entertainment and that also has value.Reloading time and forum time add to the value of the ammo. I my reloads should be worth $1 each then
Fair enough, and my guess is that your are retired. Bulk reloading is only viable if you have no time commitments that require your attention.
Well, we don’t think of adding the time spent shooting guns in with the price of the gun because it is something we like to do.
Speaking of circular arguments...
In reality, and going back to the OP's question, the time spent shooting does not equate. You would spend the same amount of time shooting reloads as you would factory ammo, given a 1 to 1 exchange.
I like to reload... in fact, sometimes I wonder if I like reloading more than I do shooting. As far as that goes, everything is a balancing act... not only peeling some time off to reload, but to pile in the truck and go shooting. Both require a time investment I don't always have... the difference is I can reload at 1AM when I can't sleep, but I can't go shooting at 1AM. Everyone's situation is different, of course.
That's a decent price for 9mm. I'm tempted to buy a case. This is one of the big reasons why I always recommend 9mm. It's cheap enough that you can afford to train with it. That being said, if you shoot magnum revolvers or .308 MSRs, the cost savings becomes more evident and, the fact is, reloading is fun. I enjoy reloading as much as I enjoy shooting. maybe more.$100 + $100 + $20 + $100 = $320
Natchi is selling a case of new 9mm 115 fmj for $360 / 1,000 shipped! if it gets any cheaper, Buy Factory AMMO??? what you folks think?
I like the free shipping and FMJ’s not a fan of coated bulletsThat's a decent price for 9mm. I'm tempted to buy a case. This is one of the big reasons why I always recommend 9mm. It's cheap enough that you can afford to train with it. That being said, if you shoot magnum revolvers or .308 MSRs, the cost savings becomes more evident and, the fact is, reloading is fun. I enjoy reloading as much as I enjoy shooting. maybe more.