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Started a new project along these lines recently. I'm making a briefcase to be used as a gun case. I'm using 10 ounce Veg Tan leather that I dyed today with Chocolate Dye.

It's 16 X 13 X 4. I wanted it big to hold my Black Mamba and hopefully my backup gun.

The leather shows some wear with barbed wire marks and a branding scar. It was also very brittle and started to crack when I bent the edges. I'm using some leather finisher to soften it up so the cracking will stop.

Next is to stitch it, put a finish like Resolene on it and then it will be ready. I also bought some foam for gun bags so that I can cut out a silhouette for the guns so they don't slip around.

I'll post more pictures when it's done.
 
Several years ago a server at my local restaurant/bar,,,
Told me she wanted to go as Lara Croft for the employee Halloween contest.

I went on-line and found air soft versions of the Lara Croft pistols.

Originally I had planned to go very basic so as not to use up too much leather/supplies,,,
But as I got into designing I sort of got carried away.

Both the holsters and belt are lined with pigskin,,,
Two Silhouette Dragons tooled into the rig,,,
A buckle I had been saving for years.

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If I would have built this for sale,,,
The price would have been approximately $850.00.

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She won first place by the way. :D

Aarond

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You're definitely going the right direction. You enter a whole new realm when you start carving. It took me quite a while to get "fairly" good and I'm still a mere student of the craft. Just have the right tools and lots of scrap leather to play with. Most importantly, keep it up!

Here's a pair of Al Stohlman design holsters made for Ruger Wranglers. Al's book "How To Make Holsters" in an invaluable source of knowledge. If you don't have it. Get it. Also a 1911 holster from Will Gormley's "Hand of God" pattern. After you've made 30 or 40....you begin to get a much better feel for things. Good luck and keep up the good work!

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Several years back I made friends with a server at my local restaurant/bar,,,
We started going to my rifle-pistol club on a regular basis.

When she graduated from Oklahoma State University (OSU),,,
I bought her a Heritage .22 revolver and made her a rig for it.

I went the cowboy route as OSU people are known as Cowboys,,,
Pistol Pete is our mascot.

SarahsNewRig-02-lr.jpg

Since it was for a .22 I decided on an ammo pouch instead of belt loops.

SarahsNewRig-03-lr.jpg

Sarah was tickled pink.

I am a graduate of OSU as well with a B.S. and M.S. in Education,,,
For several years I made the gunbelts for the two students who were "The Pete's"

One of my friends was a counselor at the College of Education,,,
He was one of the Pistol Pete's back in 87-88 school year,,,
They didn't get to keep anything of their rig.

I decided to make one for him,,,
So he had something to wear at Homecoming parades.

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After he showed it around I decided I would make rigs for each of the new Pete's,,,
I did that for several years until the Athletic Department nixed the endeavor.

Click here for more pics of the Pistol Pete rig.

Aarond

.
 
I've been making my own leather for just under 2 years now. For me form follows function so I haven't really explored stamping and carving, maybe some day. Some of my pieces.
 
I've been making my own leather for just under 2 years now. For me form follows function so I haven't really explored stamping and carving, maybe some day. Some of my pieces.


I am jonesing those butt cuffs. Been scoping some out. Decided I need to find the patterns and leather to try making my own. Especially since I need 4 for my lever actions and 3 for SxS shotguns.
 
I am jonesing those butt cuffs. Been scoping some out. Decided I need to find the patterns and leather to try making my own. Especially since I need 4 for my lever actions and 3 for SxS shotguns.

They're super easy to make, would actually be a really good first leather project.

Basically you would just need to measure the length you want from near the butt to where you want it to end near your grip, this will be your length.

Next measure with a soft tape measure (think the kind tailors use, a tool shop tape measure made of a steel band wouldn't follow contours very well) and measure around the back part of your stock near the butt and around near the grip at the spots where you took your length measurements and note those down.

Now with your measurements select a piece of leather, I used 4-5oz but something a little heavier could work too. The measurement of the circumference at the butt will be on the bottom and the measurement around near the grip will be the top. On the back of the leather draw a straight line that is the butt measurement. Find the center of this line and draw another line perpendicular to that line the length that you measured in the first step. When you get that done find what the center of your grip side circumference was and draw a line that centers that vertical line. (edit: the final post is taking spaces out of my attempt to illustrate and doesn't come out right, basically it will look like an isosceles trapezoid)



Next you just need to connect the ends of the two lines from the short to the long, you now have a trapezoidal shape. This will be cut out from your larger piece of leather. You can save leather by orienting this to minimize the leather that has to be cut off (or drop, might be a familiar term if you're a craftsman).

With that piece you then wrap your piece around your cuff and take a look. For me here i'm looking to see how the ends come together. Since butt stocks are rarely flat there will be some spots where maybe the ends of the leather have a bit of overlap. Keeping the leather in as close to the final position you'll want check to see if you need to trim back some more leather (usually near the grip side) and make note and markings with a soft pencil (art supply stores sell shading pencil sets for not much and are a great tool in the leather shop, soft pencils in the 2b or 4b range usually erase easily and don't leave noticeable indents if you're gentle) and cut back as needed.

When you've done all your final cuts you can then cut the very tips of the corners to remove the sharp points, just a little bit off is needed, maybe 3mm at most. This will get rounded out by the edgework you'll do later.

Bevel all the edges on the front and back side of your leather and do a preliminary rounding of the edges, you'll have to do more later for the final touches but its good to do this once before moulding.

Next would be wet moulding. Technically you could not do this part but I like a custom fit to my stocks so I like it, plus it helps to start to add some age and character to your leather, especially with plain veg tan.
Wrap your stock with some plastic wrap to keep it dry, try to keep it flat on the butt and not leave any big bulges except maybe around the bottom of the cuff where the stitching will be, and wet your leather piece in a bowl of water. A good full soak is what I prefer, it makes it easier to work with. With veg tan leather when the bubbles of air stop coming out of the leather you know your good. Pull it out and just set it down for maybe 2-3 minutes. The leather will be very soft and pliable now.

Wrap the wet leather around your stock in the position you want it to be and form the leather to any contours you want it to follow. If it starts to slide around be sure to correct it back to the position you want it in. Keep holding it there and working the top side of the leather as it starts to dry, you'll have to hold it for probably 10-15 minutes at least depending on the humidity of where you live. Eventually the leather will start to dry enough that when you remove it from the cuff it keeps it's shape. Keep working it until it starts to get pretty dry and stays in place on the stock on it's own. Leave it around the stock and let that sit for a while to dry, check it after an hour or so and flip it over if you laid your stock on one side so the other side can dry too. After another few hours you can take off the stock and sit it vertically on the butt side and let it dry overnight.

For the rest of the cuff body it's really just going back over the edging to smooth it out after the wet mouling and tapping your lace holes. For the lace holes you will just need to pick a hole punch big enough for your lace (I use 1/4" latigo leather lace on mine) and mark with an awl (or pencil) where you need to tap.

I tapped mine about 3/8" back from the edge of the cuff. Pro (amateur) tip: If you have sling studs on the bottom of your butt be sure to place a stitch hole inline with where the stud is, that way when you go to cross stitch with your lace it will cross in front of and behind the stud.
Using the hole inline with the stud as a starting point measure out in equal as possible distances. I do about 6 stitch holes but you might have more or less depending on your overall length. You may need to get creative with the spacing to keep things even looking but the #1 thing here is make sure you do your markings and taps as identical as you can to both edges of your cuff, that way it doesn't end up crooked when you got to stitch it together.

For the ammo carrier loops you'll want to cut a long piece of leather of the appropriate weight for the size and quantity of rounds you want to be able to carry.
For example, my 357 Mag has 10 loops for rounds, for that I used 2-3oz leather (with the back plain) since there were so many and would be close together. On the 45-70 I used 2-3oz leather but for that I used a scrap piece from another project that was two 2-3oz with the skiv side contact cemented together, effectively making it actually 4-6oz leather. Larger calibers need more loop and can use a heavier leather while smaller calibers generally a lighter leather, especially if you need to cram a lot in a small space.

So anyway, when you decide what cartridge and how man you want to fit on your cuff you'll select a weight of leather to use and cut your strip. A little bit of math can help make sure you're not too short or overly long. Take a soft tape measure and wrap it around one of your cartridges, you can do this with the round flat on a table. See approximately what the circumference is from about the 5 & 7 o'clock positions (wedged right in between the round and the table) take that measurement and multiply it by however many rounds you'll be making loops for and then add 2" on either side for good measure.

When you've cut out your piece do your edgework as needed and then it will be time for more wet moulding. If you have an even number of rounds (10 for example) start with 2 rounds for your moulding, if you have an odd number of rounds just 1 will do.
Wet your leather the same way we did above with the cuff and and then take it to your rounds to form the loops. With two rounds put the center of the piece between the rounds and then roll them together, letting the centerline of the leather fold down between them, to start to form loops. With a single round situation (odd total of rounds) center the middle of your piece around the round and tuck the leather down around the round where it meets the table, starting to form a loop.

For either even or odd round counts the next part is the same, grab more rounds and add them to either side and repeat the action while keeping everything together, forming loops while the leather starts to dry. Here's an example of what it looked like when I did loops for 12GA


You want to be sure that you keep enough slack in the leather "dimples" between the rounds so that they keep contact with your flat surface, if they start to pull away when the leather dries (and shrinks a bit) then your loops will end up too small and it will be hard to put rounds in and take them out. After you've formed loops for all the rounds you want keep them together with your hands and keep forming as the leather dries enough that you can eventually let it be. With my 357 Mag example with the 10 rounds it can be a handful to keep it all together, don't get discouraged if the rounds all pop out of position and you have to finagle them back into the loops you're forming, it happened to me a few times on that one.

Side note: Wet forming its self is a bit of a skill you'll get the hang of if you do it enough. Knowing when you can set a piece down for a few minutes, come back and form some more, repress certain spots as the drying process happens, etc. comes with practice and experience. Keep at it though, its very rewarding being able to make custom moulded leatherwork.

Once that is totally dry you can cut the extra (if any) off the ends and re-edge, next will be tapping stitching holes to attach your loop carrier to the cuff. I won't lie, this part is not super fun, especially with many rounds. Probably start off with a project that has fewer round loops until you get the hang of tapping and saddler's stitching.
The basic idea here is lay your cuff flat and position your loops on the side you want them to be on. A little Elmer's glue can help keep one side in position when you start out but won't really be needed after that. The idea here is to put stitching lines across the width of your loop strap at the very edges past the loops and inbetween each round loop. Start from one side and work your way to the other, making your taps, doing your stitching, making your next taps, doing your stitching, etc. This is the part that is a pain, haha, but well worth it in the end.
When you're tapping the holes in the actual loop part it helps to put a round in the loop so you can get your stitching chisel down tight in the pocket between the round and the cuff (that 5 or 7 o'clock area again). When you're doing this be sure to go slow and keep your alignment, making sure each new stitch tap is parallel to the last and you're not drifting overall, once your tap your chisel in the leather there's no going back. Eventually you'll get through them all and will have ammo carrier loops on your cuff.

The strap you see on my pieces above that goes behind the actual butt and meets your shoulder might not be strictly necessary but I decided to go with it for extra insurance. I didn't use any suede in my cuff to keep it from sliding around and I wanted to be sure. These are just a strip of leather that's been cut to length, edged, shaped and stitched with wax thread. The stitching hole tapping and stitching here can get a little tricky. One side is easy since you can lay your butt cuff flat, but once you have one side done you start working in a 3D world. With the one side stitched you'll want to put your cuff on your stock and wrap the loose end around your butt end, keeping the cuff from sliding around, and make note if you need to do any more final trimming to keep it even on both sides. If cuts are needed do so and then refinish your edges, you wont have another chance when you do the next part. With the cuff back on your stock wrap the loose end around the butt and a little bit of Elmer's glue can be used to hold the loose end in place until you can stitch it down. Hold on the glued piece until it's dry enough to stay on it's own and gently slide the cuff off your stock.

Let that totally dry (maybe an hour) and then comes the tricky tapping and stitching. Using a table or bench corner position your cuff in such a way that you can put that glued strap end flat on your tapping surface (usually a cutting board) and make your taps for stitching. Once you have your taps in you don't have to worry so much about the glue coming undone but it does help to keep that intact. Make the stitches with a normal saddler's stitch, the angle can be a little weird now that you have a piece of leather folded toward its self but once you have them in that part is done.

With all that done you'll be able to slap your butt cuff on your stock and grab some leather lace and stitch it on like a shoelace, starting from the grip side working your way out to the butt side. Any other stuff like stamping caliber, names, date etc. can also be added when you have it on your stock.


This ended up being way longer than I expected, haha, but I hope it's not too daunting and you actually give leather crafting a try. Pretty much all of the basic technique I know I learned from watching Weaver Leather's youtube page, check them out to get the basics down. Good luck!
 
They're super easy to make, would actually be a really good first leather project.

Basically you would just need to measure the length you want from near the butt to where you want it to end near your grip, this will be your length.

Next measure with a soft tape measure (think the kind tailors use, a tool shop tape measure made of a steel band wouldn't follow contours very well) and measure around the back part of your stock near the butt and around near the grip at the spots where you took your length measurements and note those down.

Now with your measurements select a piece of leather, I used 4-5oz but something a little heavier could work too. The measurement of the circumference at the butt will be on the bottom and the measurement around near the grip will be the top. On the back of the leather draw a straight line that is the butt measurement. Find the center of this line and draw another line perpendicular to that line the length that you measured in the first step. When you get that done find what the center of your grip side circumference was and draw a line that centers that vertical line. (edit: the final post is taking spaces out of my attempt to illustrate and doesn't come out right, basically it will look like an isosceles trapezoid)



Next you just need to connect the ends of the two lines from the short to the long, you now have a trapezoidal shape. This will be cut out from your larger piece of leather. You can save leather by orienting this to minimize the leather that has to be cut off (or drop, might be a familiar term if you're a craftsman).

With that piece you then wrap your piece around your cuff and take a look. For me here i'm looking to see how the ends come together. Since butt stocks are rarely flat there will be some spots where maybe the ends of the leather have a bit of overlap. Keeping the leather in as close to the final position you'll want check to see if you need to trim back some more leather (usually near the grip side) and make note and markings with a soft pencil (art supply stores sell shading pencil sets for not much and are a great tool in the leather shop, soft pencils in the 2b or 4b range usually erase easily and don't leave noticeable indents if you're gentle) and cut back as needed.

When you've done all your final cuts you can then cut the very tips of the corners to remove the sharp points, just a little bit off is needed, maybe 3mm at most. This will get rounded out by the edgework you'll do later.

Bevel all the edges on the front and back side of your leather and do a preliminary rounding of the edges, you'll have to do more later for the final touches but its good to do this once before moulding.

Next would be wet moulding. Technically you could not do this part but I like a custom fit to my stocks so I like it, plus it helps to start to add some age and character to your leather, especially with plain veg tan.
Wrap your stock with some plastic wrap to keep it dry, try to keep it flat on the butt and not leave any big bulges except maybe around the bottom of the cuff where the stitching will be, and wet your leather piece in a bowl of water. A good full soak is what I prefer, it makes it easier to work with. With veg tan leather when the bubbles of air stop coming out of the leather you know your good. Pull it out and just set it down for maybe 2-3 minutes. The leather will be very soft and pliable now.

Wrap the wet leather around your stock in the position you want it to be and form the leather to any contours you want it to follow. If it starts to slide around be sure to correct it back to the position you want it in. Keep holding it there and working the top side of the leather as it starts to dry, you'll have to hold it for probably 10-15 minutes at least depending on the humidity of where you live. Eventually the leather will start to dry enough that when you remove it from the cuff it keeps it's shape. Keep working it until it starts to get pretty dry and stays in place on the stock on it's own. Leave it around the stock and let that sit for a while to dry, check it after an hour or so and flip it over if you laid your stock on one side so the other side can dry too. After another few hours you can take off the stock and sit it vertically on the butt side and let it dry overnight.

For the rest of the cuff body it's really just going back over the edging to smooth it out after the wet mouling and tapping your lace holes. For the lace holes you will just need to pick a hole punch big enough for your lace (I use 1/4" latigo leather lace on mine) and mark with an awl (or pencil) where you need to tap.

I tapped mine about 3/8" back from the edge of the cuff. Pro (amateur) tip: If you have sling studs on the bottom of your butt be sure to place a stitch hole inline with where the stud is, that way when you go to cross stitch with your lace it will cross in front of and behind the stud.
Using the hole inline with the stud as a starting point measure out in equal as possible distances. I do about 6 stitch holes but you might have more or less depending on your overall length. You may need to get creative with the spacing to keep things even looking but the #1 thing here is make sure you do your markings and taps as identical as you can to both edges of your cuff, that way it doesn't end up crooked when you got to stitch it together.

For the ammo carrier loops you'll want to cut a long piece of leather of the appropriate weight for the size and quantity of rounds you want to be able to carry.
For example, my 357 Mag has 10 loops for rounds, for that I used 2-3oz leather (with the back plain) since there were so many and would be close together. On the 45-70 I used 2-3oz leather but for that I used a scrap piece from another project that was two 2-3oz with the skiv side contact cemented together, effectively making it actually 4-6oz leather. Larger calibers need more loop and can use a heavier leather while smaller calibers generally a lighter leather, especially if you need to cram a lot in a small space.

So anyway, when you decide what cartridge and how man you want to fit on your cuff you'll select a weight of leather to use and cut your strip. A little bit of math can help make sure you're not too short or overly long. Take a soft tape measure and wrap it around one of your cartridges, you can do this with the round flat on a table. See approximately what the circumference is from about the 5 & 7 o'clock positions (wedged right in between the round and the table) take that measurement and multiply it by however many rounds you'll be making loops for and then add 2" on either side for good measure.

When you've cut out your piece do your edgework as needed and then it will be time for more wet moulding. If you have an even number of rounds (10 for example) start with 2 rounds for your moulding, if you have an odd number of rounds just 1 will do.
Wet your leather the same way we did above with the cuff and and then take it to your rounds to form the loops. With two rounds put the center of the piece between the rounds and then roll them together, letting the centerline of the leather fold down between them, to start to form loops. With a single round situation (odd total of rounds) center the middle of your piece around the round and tuck the leather down around the round where it meets the table, starting to form a loop.

For either even or odd round counts the next part is the same, grab more rounds and add them to either side and repeat the action while keeping everything together, forming loops while the leather starts to dry. Here's an example of what it looked like when I did loops for 12GA


You want to be sure that you keep enough slack in the leather "dimples" between the rounds so that they keep contact with your flat surface, if they start to pull away when the leather dries (and shrinks a bit) then your loops will end up too small and it will be hard to put rounds in and take them out. After you've formed loops for all the rounds you want keep them together with your hands and keep forming as the leather dries enough that you can eventually let it be. With my 357 Mag example with the 10 rounds it can be a handful to keep it all together, don't get discouraged if the rounds all pop out of position and you have to finagle them back into the loops you're forming, it happened to me a few times on that one.

Side note: Wet forming its self is a bit of a skill you'll get the hang of if you do it enough. Knowing when you can set a piece down for a few minutes, come back and form some more, repress certain spots as the drying process happens, etc. comes with practice and experience. Keep at it though, its very rewarding being able to make custom moulded leatherwork.

Once that is totally dry you can cut the extra (if any) off the ends and re-edge, next will be tapping stitching holes to attach your loop carrier to the cuff. I won't lie, this part is not super fun, especially with many rounds. Probably start off with a project that has fewer round loops until you get the hang of tapping and saddler's stitching.
The basic idea here is lay your cuff flat and position your loops on the side you want them to be on. A little Elmer's glue can help keep one side in position when you start out but won't really be needed after that. The idea here is to put stitching lines across the width of your loop strap at the very edges past the loops and inbetween each round loop. Start from one side and work your way to the other, making your taps, doing your stitching, making your next taps, doing your stitching, etc. This is the part that is a pain, haha, but well worth it in the end.
When you're tapping the holes in the actual loop part it helps to put a round in the loop so you can get your stitching chisel down tight in the pocket between the round and the cuff (that 5 or 7 o'clock area again). When you're doing this be sure to go slow and keep your alignment, making sure each new stitch tap is parallel to the last and you're not drifting overall, once your tap your chisel in the leather there's no going back. Eventually you'll get through them all and will have ammo carrier loops on your cuff.

The strap you see on my pieces above that goes behind the actual butt and meets your shoulder might not be strictly necessary but I decided to go with it for extra insurance. I didn't use any suede in my cuff to keep it from sliding around and I wanted to be sure. These are just a strip of leather that's been cut to length, edged, shaped and stitched with wax thread. The stitching hole tapping and stitching here can get a little tricky. One side is easy since you can lay your butt cuff flat, but once you have one side done you start working in a 3D world. With the one side stitched you'll want to put your cuff on your stock and wrap the loose end around your butt end, keeping the cuff from sliding around, and make note if you need to do any more final trimming to keep it even on both sides. If cuts are needed do so and then refinish your edges, you wont have another chance when you do the next part. With the cuff back on your stock wrap the loose end around the butt and a little bit of Elmer's glue can be used to hold the loose end in place until you can stitch it down. Hold on the glued piece until it's dry enough to stay on it's own and gently slide the cuff off your stock.

Let that totally dry (maybe an hour) and then comes the tricky tapping and stitching. Using a table or bench corner position your cuff in such a way that you can put that glued strap end flat on your tapping surface (usually a cutting board) and make your taps for stitching. Once you have your taps in you don't have to worry so much about the glue coming undone but it does help to keep that intact. Make the stitches with a normal saddler's stitch, the angle can be a little weird now that you have a piece of leather folded toward its self but once you have them in that part is done.

With all that done you'll be able to slap your butt cuff on your stock and grab some leather lace and stitch it on like a shoelace, starting from the grip side working your way out to the butt side. Any other stuff like stamping caliber, names, date etc. can also be added when you have it on your stock.


This ended up being way longer than I expected, haha, but I hope it's not too daunting and you actually give leather crafting a try. Pretty much all of the basic technique I know I learned from watching Weaver Leather's youtube page, check them out to get the basics down. Good luck!
You wrote an entire textbook.
 
Several years back I made friends with a server at my local restaurant/bar,,,
We started going to my rifle-pistol club on a regular basis.
Those are great looking rigs.


When she graduated from Oklahoma State University (OSU),,,
I bought her a Heritage .22 revolver and made her a rig for it.

I went the cowboy route as OSU people are known as Cowboys,,,
Pistol Pete is our mascot.

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Since it was for a .22 I decided on an ammo pouch instead of belt loops.

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Sarah was tickled pink.

I am a graduate of OSU as well with a B.S. and M.S. in Education,,,
For several years I made the gunbelts for the two students who were "The Pete's"

One of my friends was a counselor at the College of Education,,,
He was one of the Pistol Pete's back in 87-88 school year,,,
They didn't get to keep anything of their rig.

I decided to make one for him,,,
So he had something to wear at Homecoming parades.

View attachment 1064846

After he showed it around I decided I would make rigs for each of the new Pete's,,,
I did that for several years until the Athletic Department nixed the endeavor.

Click here for more pics of the Pistol Pete rig.

Aarond

.

Love the rigs and it's great that you make them for the other Petes.
 
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My current rig for my S&W 617 that I use for Steel Challenge Matches. I've probably made 6 holsters for this purpose but this is the closest to what I really like.

I had to remake the belt look on this because it was a little floppy. I ended up putting a piece of Kydex between two layers of 10 ounce leather. That took tightened it right up.
 
They're super easy to make, would actually be a really good first leather project.

Basically you would just need to measure the length you want from near the butt to where you want it to end near your grip, this will be your length.

Next measure with a soft tape measure (think the kind tailors use, a tool shop tape measure made of a steel band wouldn't follow contours very well) and measure around the back part of your stock near the butt and around near the grip at the spots where you took your length measurements and note those down.

Now with your measurements select a piece of leather, I used 4-5oz but something a little heavier could work too. The measurement of the circumference at the butt will be on the bottom and the measurement around near the grip will be the top. On the back of the leather draw a straight line that is the butt measurement. Find the center of this line and draw another line perpendicular to that line the length that you measured in the first step. When you get that done find what the center of your grip side circumference was and draw a line that centers that vertical line. (edit: the final post is taking spaces out of my attempt to illustrate and doesn't come out right, basically it will look like an isosceles trapezoid)



Next you just need to connect the ends of the two lines from the short to the long, you now have a trapezoidal shape. This will be cut out from your larger piece of leather. You can save leather by orienting this to minimize the leather that has to be cut off (or drop, might be a familiar term if you're a craftsman).

With that piece you then wrap your piece around your cuff and take a look. For me here i'm looking to see how the ends come together. Since butt stocks are rarely flat there will be some spots where maybe the ends of the leather have a bit of overlap. Keeping the leather in as close to the final position you'll want check to see if you need to trim back some more leather (usually near the grip side) and make note and markings with a soft pencil (art supply stores sell shading pencil sets for not much and are a great tool in the leather shop, soft pencils in the 2b or 4b range usually erase easily and don't leave noticeable indents if you're gentle) and cut back as needed.

When you've done all your final cuts you can then cut the very tips of the corners to remove the sharp points, just a little bit off is needed, maybe 3mm at most. This will get rounded out by the edgework you'll do later.

Bevel all the edges on the front and back side of your leather and do a preliminary rounding of the edges, you'll have to do more later for the final touches but its good to do this once before moulding.

Next would be wet moulding. Technically you could not do this part but I like a custom fit to my stocks so I like it, plus it helps to start to add some age and character to your leather, especially with plain veg tan.
Wrap your stock with some plastic wrap to keep it dry, try to keep it flat on the butt and not leave any big bulges except maybe around the bottom of the cuff where the stitching will be, and wet your leather piece in a bowl of water. A good full soak is what I prefer, it makes it easier to work with. With veg tan leather when the bubbles of air stop coming out of the leather you know your good. Pull it out and just set it down for maybe 2-3 minutes. The leather will be very soft and pliable now.

Wrap the wet leather around your stock in the position you want it to be and form the leather to any contours you want it to follow. If it starts to slide around be sure to correct it back to the position you want it in. Keep holding it there and working the top side of the leather as it starts to dry, you'll have to hold it for probably 10-15 minutes at least depending on the humidity of where you live. Eventually the leather will start to dry enough that when you remove it from the cuff it keeps it's shape. Keep working it until it starts to get pretty dry and stays in place on the stock on it's own. Leave it around the stock and let that sit for a while to dry, check it after an hour or so and flip it over if you laid your stock on one side so the other side can dry too. After another few hours you can take off the stock and sit it vertically on the butt side and let it dry overnight.

For the rest of the cuff body it's really just going back over the edging to smooth it out after the wet mouling and tapping your lace holes. For the lace holes you will just need to pick a hole punch big enough for your lace (I use 1/4" latigo leather lace on mine) and mark with an awl (or pencil) where you need to tap.

I tapped mine about 3/8" back from the edge of the cuff. Pro (amateur) tip: If you have sling studs on the bottom of your butt be sure to place a stitch hole inline with where the stud is, that way when you go to cross stitch with your lace it will cross in front of and behind the stud.
Using the hole inline with the stud as a starting point measure out in equal as possible distances. I do about 6 stitch holes but you might have more or less depending on your overall length. You may need to get creative with the spacing to keep things even looking but the #1 thing here is make sure you do your markings and taps as identical as you can to both edges of your cuff, that way it doesn't end up crooked when you got to stitch it together.

For the ammo carrier loops you'll want to cut a long piece of leather of the appropriate weight for the size and quantity of rounds you want to be able to carry.
For example, my 357 Mag has 10 loops for rounds, for that I used 2-3oz leather (with the back plain) since there were so many and would be close together. On the 45-70 I used 2-3oz leather but for that I used a scrap piece from another project that was two 2-3oz with the skiv side contact cemented together, effectively making it actually 4-6oz leather. Larger calibers need more loop and can use a heavier leather while smaller calibers generally a lighter leather, especially if you need to cram a lot in a small space.

So anyway, when you decide what cartridge and how man you want to fit on your cuff you'll select a weight of leather to use and cut your strip. A little bit of math can help make sure you're not too short or overly long. Take a soft tape measure and wrap it around one of your cartridges, you can do this with the round flat on a table. See approximately what the circumference is from about the 5 & 7 o'clock positions (wedged right in between the round and the table) take that measurement and multiply it by however many rounds you'll be making loops for and then add 2" on either side for good measure.

When you've cut out your piece do your edgework as needed and then it will be time for more wet moulding. If you have an even number of rounds (10 for example) start with 2 rounds for your moulding, if you have an odd number of rounds just 1 will do.
Wet your leather the same way we did above with the cuff and and then take it to your rounds to form the loops. With two rounds put the center of the piece between the rounds and then roll them together, letting the centerline of the leather fold down between them, to start to form loops. With a single round situation (odd total of rounds) center the middle of your piece around the round and tuck the leather down around the round where it meets the table, starting to form a loop.

For either even or odd round counts the next part is the same, grab more rounds and add them to either side and repeat the action while keeping everything together, forming loops while the leather starts to dry. Here's an example of what it looked like when I did loops for 12GA


You want to be sure that you keep enough slack in the leather "dimples" between the rounds so that they keep contact with your flat surface, if they start to pull away when the leather dries (and shrinks a bit) then your loops will end up too small and it will be hard to put rounds in and take them out. After you've formed loops for all the rounds you want keep them together with your hands and keep forming as the leather dries enough that you can eventually let it be. With my 357 Mag example with the 10 rounds it can be a handful to keep it all together, don't get discouraged if the rounds all pop out of position and you have to finagle them back into the loops you're forming, it happened to me a few times on that one.

Side note: Wet forming its self is a bit of a skill you'll get the hang of if you do it enough. Knowing when you can set a piece down for a few minutes, come back and form some more, repress certain spots as the drying process happens, etc. comes with practice and experience. Keep at it though, its very rewarding being able to make custom moulded leatherwork.

Once that is totally dry you can cut the extra (if any) off the ends and re-edge, next will be tapping stitching holes to attach your loop carrier to the cuff. I won't lie, this part is not super fun, especially with many rounds. Probably start off with a project that has fewer round loops until you get the hang of tapping and saddler's stitching.
The basic idea here is lay your cuff flat and position your loops on the side you want them to be on. A little Elmer's glue can help keep one side in position when you start out but won't really be needed after that. The idea here is to put stitching lines across the width of your loop strap at the very edges past the loops and inbetween each round loop. Start from one side and work your way to the other, making your taps, doing your stitching, making your next taps, doing your stitching, etc. This is the part that is a pain, haha, but well worth it in the end.
When you're tapping the holes in the actual loop part it helps to put a round in the loop so you can get your stitching chisel down tight in the pocket between the round and the cuff (that 5 or 7 o'clock area again). When you're doing this be sure to go slow and keep your alignment, making sure each new stitch tap is parallel to the last and you're not drifting overall, once your tap your chisel in the leather there's no going back. Eventually you'll get through them all and will have ammo carrier loops on your cuff.

The strap you see on my pieces above that goes behind the actual butt and meets your shoulder might not be strictly necessary but I decided to go with it for extra insurance. I didn't use any suede in my cuff to keep it from sliding around and I wanted to be sure. These are just a strip of leather that's been cut to length, edged, shaped and stitched with wax thread. The stitching hole tapping and stitching here can get a little tricky. One side is easy since you can lay your butt cuff flat, but once you have one side done you start working in a 3D world. With the one side stitched you'll want to put your cuff on your stock and wrap the loose end around your butt end, keeping the cuff from sliding around, and make note if you need to do any more final trimming to keep it even on both sides. If cuts are needed do so and then refinish your edges, you wont have another chance when you do the next part. With the cuff back on your stock wrap the loose end around the butt and a little bit of Elmer's glue can be used to hold the loose end in place until you can stitch it down. Hold on the glued piece until it's dry enough to stay on it's own and gently slide the cuff off your stock.

Let that totally dry (maybe an hour) and then comes the tricky tapping and stitching. Using a table or bench corner position your cuff in such a way that you can put that glued strap end flat on your tapping surface (usually a cutting board) and make your taps for stitching. Once you have your taps in you don't have to worry so much about the glue coming undone but it does help to keep that intact. Make the stitches with a normal saddler's stitch, the angle can be a little weird now that you have a piece of leather folded toward its self but once you have them in that part is done.

With all that done you'll be able to slap your butt cuff on your stock and grab some leather lace and stitch it on like a shoelace, starting from the grip side working your way out to the butt side. Any other stuff like stamping caliber, names, date etc. can also be added when you have it on your stock.


This ended up being way longer than I expected, haha, but I hope it's not too daunting and you actually give leather crafting a try. Pretty much all of the basic technique I know I learned from watching Weaver Leather's youtube page, check them out to get the basics down. Good luck!

Wow, you nailed it with the instructions. This is something I will have to do for an old black powder rifle a friend gave me. When I'm done I'll have to make one for him as well.

Thanks for taking the time to explain your project.

Steven
 
Wow, you nailed it with the instructions. This is something I will have to do for an old black powder rifle a friend gave me. When I'm done I'll have to make one for him as well.

Thanks for taking the time to explain your project.

Steven


No problem, happy crafting!
 
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