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California AG just ordered what's basically "shall issue" change to CCW applications.
Let them pass their silly prohibitions then. Let me know when they put metal detectors at every subway entrance. Gun owners will adapt and overcome as we always do. This was a major victory. Short of openly defying the SCOTUS, any action they take will be insufficient to deter our progress in the coming years. if this was a war, this would be a turning point.
Exactly. It's kind of a win-win for the law abiding citizens.it would be interesting to see how they would enforce a ban on guns on the subway. Putting metal detectors and police at every train or bus stop would be a massive funding of the police, which a sizable portion of their base is against.
they are also strongly against stop and frisk as well.
"...because any permit-ting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry."
New Mexico was admitted to the Union January 6, 1912....New Mexico’s prohibition ended when the Territory entered the Union as a State in 1911...
You meant 1912 - https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/new-mexico-joins-the-unionNew Mexico was admitted to the Union January 6, 2012.
Please reread my post.
I was responding to you posting "2012"Please reread my post.
New Mexico was admitted to the Union January 6, 2012.
DOH! <facepalm> My 'oops!'I was responding to you posting "2012"
they are also backed by Billions of Bloomburg $$$$ pet project money. But a win is a win for our rights and let it be set in stone. The 2nd Amendment is to insure government keeps their hand off our rights to Keep & Bear Arms!
Yep, I was thinking no wonder people thought New Mexico was part of Mexico since it didn't become a state until 2012I was responding to you posting "2012"
They will not put metal detectors in subways, not practical. However, accidental exposures will be fully prosecuted - what will be the penalty? A felony? Second if you use the gun in the subway you will go down the Bernhard Goetz rabbit hole. Goetz was found not guilty on grounds of self-defense but the sympathetic jury felt it had no choice but convict on gun carrying, not a trivial crime.
Also if your shoot is ambiguous and you are tried civilly, your deliberate breaking the law will be used against to show your murderous intent. This happened to Goetz.
Thus, violating the law after this decision is the same as illegal carry in NYC is now. The license is irrelevant if carry is banned, you committed a crime. The penalties will be worked out.
California AG just ordered what's basically "shall issue" change to CCW applications.
In the short term, probably, even tho states are falling in line over shall issue. NYC is bound and determined to declare as much of it a sensitive area, but the courts will strike much of it down because the text and history at the founding believed there were very few places that would be considered sensitive areas where arms not be carried in any manner, mostly courts and government buildings.This. People are far too quick to declare victory. The ruling will either be outright ignored, or other restrictions and dissuasion used to make it ineffective.
I hope they'll be giving per curium rulings more often, given the knee jerk reaction of politicians in NY:In the short term, probably, even tho states are falling in line over shall issue. NYC is bound and determined to declare as much of it a sensitive area, but the courts will strike much of it down because the text and history at the founding believed there were very few places that would be considered sensitive areas where arms not be carried in any manner, mostly courts and government buildings.
New York City is going to try to make every place of public transit and 1000 yard perimeters around every school, court, hospital, bar, barbershop, bakery, and delicatessen "sensitive" areas. That's not going to fly and if the NY Supreme Court even tries to uphold any laws along those lines, SCOTUS is going to Caetano that decision so fast it'll make Mayor Adams' newest fur coat start screaming in agony like the one in Ghostbusters 2.
I hope they'll be giving per curium rulings more often, given the knee jerk reaction of politicians in NY:In the short term, probably, even tho states are falling in line over shall issue. NYC is bound and determined to declare as much of it a sensitive area, but the courts will strike much of it down because the text and history at the founding believed there were very few places that would be considered sensitive areas where arms not be carried in any manner, mostly courts and government buildings.
New York City is going to try to make every place of public transit and 1000 yard perimeters around every school, court, hospital, bar, barbershop, bakery, and delicatessen "sensitive" areas. That's not going to fly and if the NY Supreme Court even tries to uphold any laws along those lines, SCOTUS is going to Caetano that decision so fast it'll make Mayor Adams' newest fur coat start screaming in agony like the one in Ghostbusters 2.
These quotes make it sound like the judges in the lower courts are expected to act like grade school kids and are incapable of critical thinking and will be unable to reason along the lines of the decision as written and reasoned by SCOTUS.This is interesting. Could remove losing your right to possess a firearm for a misdemeanor Domestic Abuse conviction.
I've never thought you should be able to lose your right to possess a firearm over a misdemeanor.
https://www.courthousenews.com/poli...ieces-of-supreme-courts-gun-rights-expansion/
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In the short term, probably, even tho states are falling in line over shall issue. NYC is bound and determined to declare as much of it a sensitive area, but the courts will strike much of it down because the text and history at the founding believed there were very few places that would be considered sensitive areas where arms not be carried in any manner, mostly courts and government buildings.
New York City is going to try to make every place of public transit and 1000 yard perimeters around every school, court, hospital, bar, barbershop, bakery, and delicatessen "sensitive" areas. That's not going to fly and if the NY Supreme Court even tries to uphold any laws along those lines, SCOTUS is going to Caetano that decision so fast it'll make Mayor Adams' newest fur coat start screaming in agony like the one in Ghostbusters 2.
SCOTUS has no enforcement power. What happens if they rule against NY state and NY decides to just ignore it? Then what? The court has no power of the purse, it has no army at its command, and it cannot force the state do to what it says. Only the Executive or possibly the Legislative branch of the Federal Government can enforce the decision. And neither is interested in doing so.
This might be the most important Supreme Court of the United States of America in history. This really sets a path for American to be free. Big Win for everyone, even if you don’t like guns!!!Sounds a bit like what happened with Brown v. Board of Education. Yeah, if various factions refuse to abide by the law things could indeed get... messy.
I'm not a lawyer but I envision contempt of court charges and worse, if people decide to take the path of lawlessness. I wasn't around for it, but I've read about the National Guard being called in to enforce desegregation after Brown.
Anyone ever read about Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus?
What we're talking about is an assault on basic rule of law in America. I would really hope though that America doesn't go down that path though and law and order prevails. Time will tell.
Sounds a bit like what happened with Brown v. Board of Education. Yeah, if various factions refuse to abide by the law things could indeed get... messy.
I'm not a lawyer but I envision contempt of court charges and worse, if people decide to take the path of lawlessness. I wasn't around for it, but I've read about the National Guard being called in to enforce desegregation after Brown.
Anyone ever read about Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus?
What we're talking about is an assault on basic rule of law in America. I would really hope though that America doesn't go down that path though and law and order prevails. Time will tell.