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Are you saying you would be in favor of allowing 5 year olds to purchase firearms then?
Argumentum ad Absurdum
Are you saying you would be in favor of allowing 5 year olds to purchase firearms then?
Ok. So what age would you consider appropriate to be the legal minimum? Just looking for an answer to my question. Personally, I think it should remain as is, until there's a cultural shift resulting in a maturation of the average kid.Argumentum ad Absurdum
You lost me there. What other Constitutional right requires a psych eval or formal training before one can exercise it? No speech unless you've been approved following a psych eval and been formally trained? No press? Excessive bail, un-fettered search, no due-process, delayed trials, cruel punishment and double-jeopardy, unless you've been "approved" and "trained"?
Leftists are trying to say that the voting age should be dropped to 16, the age to get a long gun should be raised to 21 and that a person should be considered a child for insurance purposes until the age of 26.
No.
If you are an adult at 18 then you should get the rights and responsibilities of an adult at 18.
You can't require a civics class to vote or require a 200 tax stamp either....Constitutional rights don't "require" anything, but you can pass laws to set standards and protect others. You have a right to free speech, but you may have to get a permit to legally be in a certain area before you make your speech. You may have a right to vote, but not to drive to the polls at 100 mph while drunk. You may have rights as a citizen, but you also have responsibilities. TANSTAAFL. You know what that means?
Constitutional rights don't "require" anything, but you can pass laws to set standards and protect others. You have a right to free speech, but you may have to get a permit to legally be in a certain area before you make your speech. You may have a right to vote, but not to drive to the polls at 100 mph while drunk. You may have rights as a citizen, but you also have responsibilities. TANSTAAFL. You know what that means?
You can't require a civics class to vote or require a 200 tax stamp either....
You can't require a civics class to vote or require a 200 tax stamp either....
Court cases has and will prove your assertions incorrect. You don't even have to be able to read to vote.... the poll tax was also removed and deemed unconstitutional. You have to compare like things, and driving is not an annologSure you can. I remember when civics class was required just to graduate from highschool. And yes to the tax stamp too. The Constitution guards the rights in the Bill of Rights, but nothing is free. The 2nd says you have a right to bear arms. It doesn't say the government has to issue you a free gun. You have to BUY the gun. To buy the gun, you have to meet certain standards such as having enough money, not being a doper, etc.
If you want to be issued a free gun, join the military.......oh wait, there are standards to meet if you want to join the military huh?? TANSTAAFL (There ain't no such thing as a free lunch).
So many people get this stuff confused....also some people confuse this just to stir the pot as well. I generally go back to 1932 gun deal that most of us know. It was written to be a TAX, it is not restricting your access to anything, it is just a tax, and the .gov can tax.
My son joined the army infantry when he graduated at 17....became proficient with his m4 and ALL sorts of weapons and currently targets "stuff" in a Bradley... Loads it as well... It's ironic that when he went to purchase a firearm... In Texas... At 19 they denied him on a technicality... He sent me a pic of a bunch of ordnance he was responsible for and also one of the denial....funny... But not at all haha funny...Yep, really sticks in my craw that an 18-year old who joins the military not only is trusted with weapons but is putting his life on the line for the rest of us, dreadful to forbid him to own a gun to defend his life.
I had guys in the PRP guarding NUKES at 19 with automatic weapons. Tell me a more vetted person by the government for a gun.My son joined when he graduated at 17....became proficient with his m4 and ALL sorts of weapons and currently targets "stuff" in a Bradley... Loads it as well... It's was ironic that when he went to purchase a firearm... In Texas... At 19 they denied him on a technicality... He sent me a pic of a bunch of ordnance he's was responsible for and also one of the denial....funny... But not at all haha funny...
Court cases has and will prove your assertions incorrect. You don't even have to be able to read to vote.... the poll tax was also removed and deemed unconstitutional. You have to compare like things, and driving is not an annolog
My son joined the army infantry when he graduated at 17....became proficient with his m4 and ALL sorts of weapons and currently targets "stuff" in a Bradley... Loads it as well... It's ironic that when he went to purchase a firearm... In Texas... At 19 they denied him on a technicality... He sent me a pic of a bunch of ordnance he was responsible for and also one of the denial....funny... But not at all haha funny...
So...maybe we should do like several other nations... Two years mandatory in the armed servives after graduation.... Even the reserve for that matter...that would probably solve a whole lotta problems we're having...
I have always enjoyed that idea, and it's a great way to assess a population. You will screen everyone for mental health, and force them into a physical condition that is not such a huge burden on the system. With our current rates of recruitment, this may be the impending answer.So...maybe we should do like several other nations... Two years mandatory in the armed servives after graduation.... Even the reserve for that matter...that would probably solve a whole lotta problems we're having...
That decision should be up to the member and like joining now you obligate more service for more education and training. People would make different choices than just two years if everyone had to do it. I'm definitely not saying we would be flush with nuke workers but the skills afterwards are far more lucrative.I agree. Make it more than two though. Two isn't enough to make a good soldier today. Too much tech. Three minimum, with more depending on the specialty. Three years would get the kid to age 21.
I liked that also. No free rides.Any Heinlein fans may remember a requirement in his book, Starship Troopers, that everyone who wants to be a voting citizen must serve a full enlistment in order to do so.
That decision should be up to the member and like joining now you obligate more service for more education and training. People would make different choices than just two years if everyone had to do it. I'm definitely not saying we would be flush with nuke workers but the skills afterwards are far more lucrative.
I liked that also. No free rides.