I can totally understand someone having a bad day at work.Ain't CSPD great. I work in Colorado Springs, but not for CSPD. I promise you we are not all like that. Don't let one nitwit color your perception of all of us. One thing I've always suggested, and will continue to do so, is do a ride a long with the agency of your choice. Or go down to the jail and sit in Intake and observe. It would be an eye opening experience for many people.
Oklahoma. We have duty to inform. I've been pulled over for speeding. By the time the police officer walks up to the car I have my right hand on top of the steering wheel in plain view. My left hand is sticking out of the window holding my driver's license and CCL. Then I tell them I have a sidearm OWB on my left side.A compilation among many states. Some require only contact ,some only if asked some Hybrids. Here is the latest update from August, 2023, to try to straighten it out:
www.handgunlaw.us
I wil add a poll to see how THR feels about this issue. Its important to know the facts as we travel around the USA.
In synopsis it seems 10 states and DC require disclosing.
It was the State Patrol.Ain't CSPD great. I work in Colorado Springs, but not for CSPD. I promise you we are not all like that. Don't let one nitwit color your perception of all of us. One thing I've always suggested, and will continue to do so, is do a ride a long with the agency of your choice. Or go down to the jail and sit in Intake and observe. It would be an eye opening experience for many people.
Always had a feeling that you were in PaI looked in Pa it's not required.
That's a good point. While I am wary of volunteering any information besides something that actually involves the traffic stop, I will notify that I have a firearm if asked or if it is going to be exposed.There is no duty inform here.
I know people who receved only warnings after heving been puppled over for speeding--when thye did inform.
i do know that if I I am asked to exit the automobile, I do not want the officer to learn that I am carrying when he sees my OWB concealed firearm momentarily exposed.
To me, it's a no-brainer.
"Subservient to the government"? Hah.
In Oregon we’re (currently) not required to advise. But, I talked to a leo, who said to just provide the CHL with the drivers license when asked. He said he’d ask where it was, then proceed with why he stopped you. But I know some officers who are far more “authoritarian”. As stated: YMMV..Driver license and Concealed permit will generally decrease tension.
Worked a couple times for me. YMMV, especially in the primitive states.
Roscoe but seriously, there isn't a duty to inform, unless asked in Ct. I've wrestled with whether to inform before being asked or not. I normally keep my wallet on top of the console next to my driver's seat while driving in case I get stopped. I don't want to have to reach into my back pocket and maybe expose a gun on my right hip especially if I hadn't informed the LE I had a CC permit. My biggest fear is the officer might think i was reaching for my gun which is inches from my wallet. If I had forgotten to put my wallet on the console I would choose to inform the officer & ask how he wanted to proceed before reaching for my wallet.I'm usually a bit nervous when I get pulled over, which hasn't happened in many yearswill saying “gat” “big iron” “equalizer” “piece” “peacemaker” work?
The duty to inform came about fairly recently; I think it was thrown into the state laws when a lot of the more recent shall-issue laws were being considered (remember the Florida headlines: "There will be blood in the streets!" - like there wasn't already, given the South Florida cocaine wars that preceded Florida's shall-issue law).having said that I think it's a dumb law. I don't see what purpose it serves.
In washington state it will come up that you have a carry permit when they run your plates.
What if the vehicle is registered in your name, but your spouse is the one with the carry permit?
Indeed. This is a serious problem, and one that applies here in Virginia as well. For example -- my wife, who has nothing to do with guns, might be driving a car that has me on the registration. If I have a carry permit, the presumption at a traffic stop, then, would be that she might be carrying. This could get her into trouble given her unpredictable personality. In fact this is the #1 reason I haven't gotten a carry permit.They go by the registered owners, if one or both have a carry permit it will show up under their name.
I missed this. No, it will come up when your driver license is entered.In washington state it will come up that you have a carry permit when they run your plates.
Thanks, Old Dog!I missed this. No, it will come up when your driver license is entered.
They are.We both have Idaho "Enhanced" Concealed Carry Licenses now, and I don't even know if they're valid in Washington state or not.
Out of respect to law enforcement let them know that you are carrying. Put yourself in their position. And what's wrong with having the police as a possible ally of gun owners? Why would we not want them to know that?
This being the key to any citizen-LEO encounter.The specific words aren't nearly as important as the tone and the demeanor.
Actually, all it takes is your name. Enter a name and ALL the info comes up. It is not just the cops on scene - the dispatch folks update the data feed in real time for all responding officers and emergency services. Big Brother is watching.In washington state it will come up that you have a carry permit when they run your plates.
The sequence of events is quite different. The plates would be run before the LEO approaches the car, while (obviously) the driver's license would be run after the initial face-to-face encounter has taken place. It seems that the gun information would be useful at the earlier stage.I missed this. No, it will come up when your driver license is entered.
The sequence of events is quite different. The plates would be run before the LEO approaches the car, while (obviously) the driver's license would be run after the initial face-to-face encounter has taken place. It seems that the gun information would be useful at the earlier stage.
A common situation is that a car will be registered in the names of both the husband and wife. Either one might be the driver. That might lead to a discrepancy, when the driver is not the one with the gun carry license. Usually that would not be a problem, but under just the right circumstances, it might be.It depends on how it's run. Typically dispatch will run the plates as well as the registered owner which is most often the driver. If the driver is someone else then yes that information won't be known until approaching and IDing the driver.