.22lr resizer/hollow point makers.

I have no opinion, as I have never tried it.

But, it has been my experience that the only way to make a .22 more accurate with ammo, is by buying a box of every kind of ammo you can find, and testing them all in your rifle.
One or two, or more if you are real lucky, will shoot much smaller groups then the others.

Once you find that one brand that shoots best, go back and buy all you can get with the same lot number.

And heres another tip.
It most likely will not be bulk-pack stuff from Wallmart.

With all that said, getting a .22LR to shoot as well as a .17 Hummer is going to be very hard to do.

The .17 is using very good jacketed V-Max bullets from Hornady.
And no .22LR uses jacketed bullets.

BTW: This months Rifle magazine on sale on newsstands now has an artical by Charles Petty testing 51 different brands & types of .22LR ammo.
He used a Model 52 Winchester Match rifle & 10x Unertl Target scope.

At 50 yards, the best ammo tested (Eley Tenex) shot an average of five 5-shot groups into .204".
(Best = .084" worst = .389")

The worst ammo (Aguila Standard) shot .793".
(Best = .697" Worst = .985")

rc

Well, why don't you try it and report back to us.

This is a very uncommon tool. It's not too expensive, maybe you'll be the first to test it and give us a fair review.



Personal thought about it:
I sorta think that deforming the bullet nose while it's still in the brass case will end up distorting other things. You'll accomplish the stated goal of making a hollow point or swc, but might likely ruin accuracy during the process. But until you try it, you'll never know.

any hollow point on a bulk round is just an oddly shaped hole that i would bet money does nothing to help expansion.

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I'll take that bet and raise you $5!

Go out and shoot some live game like rabbits or squirrels and report back.

rc

A young gentleman has posted some reviews in the rifle section.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=482034

Does anyone have this type of system for a progressive press? Doing .22 one at a time would be get pretty tiresome (especially when I shoot several hundred at a time).....however if someone could make a setup to run them through a Dillon of L-N-L now were talking.....you could make 500 in no time and then I might be interested. There is an idea for all you aspiring entrepreneurs.

DasFriek said:

How do you guys feel about these? Im more interested in the accuracy gains as i have a .17hmr if i want to shoot varmints but the hollow point and reshaping would be fun tho.
After shooting the HMR my .22's seem like they could use a boost.

D-Rocks: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=16162

Paco's : http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/pacos-acurzr-tool-for-shaping-lead-rimfire-bullets/

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I don't have -that- tool, but I do have an earlier version of Paco Kelly's tool.

The re-sized 22lr as a wad cutter were a -little- more accurate, with fewer fliers, than my control group. But .. one rifle liked one size, another liked another size, and a 3rd showed no effect at all. I was shooting from sandbags, and not a full "lock down" vice.

If nothing else, the 22lrs turned into wad cutters did cut a hole that was a lot easier to see with a spotter scope.

The "opened up" hollow points also -seemed- to be more effective, when shot into a newspaper/water mush mixture. By more effective I mean they opened up more. than the untreated rounds.

I also would like to try filling those opened up HP's with something like rubber cement, but didn't get that far.

Bottom line is I believe that you will get an improvement, on some rifles. No way to tell which ones, or how much, or what size to shoot for w/o experimentation.

Try and get some Lapua bulk packs. Those are great, and not too expensive.

Do some research on www.RimfireCentral.com

Those guys know accuracy .22LR

It shouldn't be that bad once i add bipods

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Why not just make some sand-bags out of an old pair of jeans & duct tape?

Way cheaper, and probably better for accuracy testing then a bi-pod.

rc

"Does anyone have this type of system for a progressive press? Doing .22 one at a time would be get pretty tiresome (especially when I shoot several hundred at a time).....however if someone could make a setup to run them through a Dillon of L-N-L now were talking.....you could make 500 in no time and then I might be interested. There is an idea for all you aspiring entrepreneurs."

Not a progressive set up but a multi-round device. Try this link:
http://www.gunblast.com/Paco2.htm

I've been watching several of those threads with interest and tend to view them as peronal 'tweaking'. If all I had was a 22lr I might be more interested in trying them but since I also have a .17m2 and a .223 I don't personally have a need.
Given that I've gotten back into reloading I can tweak my centerfires to a broader range than commercial ammo gives me. I'd rather spend the scarce free time tweak the setup of my rifles (such as 2 of my 10/22 mods) for best accuracy/reliability.

Cheers
Chris