what gun is this?

Weren't the Army Rangers using a special 10mm version of the MP5???

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Various SOCOM forces (including CAG/Δ, Rangers, SF, and perhaps DEVGRU/SEAL Team 6) employed it in a limited capacity (I believe the SEALs have, at least for the most part, swapped their's for the MP-7). IIRC the FBI HRT had quite a few of them...and may very well still use them. I have heard that the MP-5/10 is a whole different beast (performance wise) when compared to the standard 9mmPara. MP-5.

Maverick223 said:

Why don't you get nit picky? BTW I know for a fact that "operators" choose their firearms based on the mission...which sometimes includes pistol caliber weapons.

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why dont i get nit picky?

i really dont know. its just never been my thing. sorry the term operators bothers you too. would the term sailors have been better?

and it has already been stated that the sailor gets to choose his weapon in certain circumstances. yes. sometime they use pistol caliber weapons. i was simply saying that i doubt it happens very frequently. im in the military man. obviously im not a seal. but ive spent my fair share of time around SF guys. and if i was a seal, i wouldnt mind carrying an mp7 to clear a tight house. but thats only because it fires a rifle type cartridge. which is the same train of thought as a lot of SF guys. though ive never met anyone in the army that has the option of either weapon.

would you choose an mp5 on a 2-way range?

would you choose an mp5 on a 2-way range?

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Sure, for short range, room clearing type operations. The compactness, lightweight, and ease of handling makes it well suited to such roles. That said, it has mostly been usurped by other systems, most notably the new AR-15 type carbines, MP-7, or FN P90.

For close quarters and room clearing, I would take a pistol cartridge sub-gun any day of the week over the deafening blast (fired indoors) of a short barrelled 5.56.

For my room clearing, I'll take an Xbox controller over a PS3 controller. It's a little bulkier, but I'm a bit faster with it.

benzy2 said:

For my room clearing, I'll take an Xbox controller over a PS3 controller. It's a little bulkier, but I'm a bit faster with it.

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This ^^

Mind if I make this my sig?

Bah I'm doing it anyway.

Go for it

US SOCOM never issued the H&K MP-5/10.

The H&K MP-5/10 was developed for the FBI and the FBI was the main end user.

During the 1980s, the US Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DevGru/SEAL Team 6) did use the H&K SMG I/SMG II//MP-2000. Which they later discontinued due to lack of spare parts to maintain/upkeep them. They were replaced by the H&K MP-5N series.

H&K SMG I

Interesting, what are the two button-like things on the receiver behind the magwell? One of them has to be the magazine release. Also interesting is the forward assist.

Rubber_Duck said:

Interesting, what are the two button-like things on the receiver behind the magwell? One of them has to be the magazine release. Also interesting is the forward assist.

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Top = bolt release
Bottom = magazine release

The forward assist could also be used to "silently" close the bolt.

Thanks for the information. I'm not a big follower of HK but I've spent a lot of time looking at all their submachine gun variants and this is one that I've never seen. Very cool!

US SOCOM never issued the H&K MP-5/10.

The H&K MP-5/10 was developed for the FBI and the FBI was the main end user.

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I think they use the 5/10 in a limited capacity, but I may be misremembering because I couldn't find any source to confirm.

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sarduy said:

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It's an H&K MP-5N with a Surefire 628 series light/forearm and a H&K 3 lug flash hider.
The flash hider helps prevent carbon/residue build up on the light, when you shoot the MP5. Without it, the carbon/residue build could dimish the light's output/effectiveness.