Rifle stock identification
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41magsnub
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Looking like a Mosin Nagant stock to me.
Dreamcast270mhz
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That looks like a Mosin
Carl N. Brown
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Reminds me of the old 1895 7mm "Spanish" Mauser I owned back in 1966.
Especially the barrel band with sling swivel and the foreend cap.
Does not match the stock on either of my Mosins.
Especially the barrel band with sling swivel and the foreend cap.
Does not match the stock on either of my Mosins.
Sam Cade
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100% not a Mosin.
Its a Mauser of some type, barrel band makes me think Swedish.
Buck Kramer
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Mosins use dog collars for the sling, I'm thinking Turkish or Greek mauser...
Float Pilot
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OK the way to do this is to figure out what it is NOT.
It is not a Mosin.
It is not a Swede m/94 carbinee. They do not have the bolt relief area and the rear sling slot is different. And no pistol grip section.
It is not a Spanish M-95 carbine. See photo...
It appears to be a large ring Mauser action. of some sort based upon the inside of the stock.
The Model 1909 Argentine Carbine would have been a good candidate except that they used a side sling attachment up front and a solid steel side sling attach point on the rear which was screwed into a detent. And there is no pistol grip to the 1909 carbine stock.
You may also have some assorted parts stuck onto one bubba'ed stock....
A full length photo in daylight would be good and Crop the towel.
It is not a Mosin.
It is not a Swede m/94 carbinee. They do not have the bolt relief area and the rear sling slot is different. And no pistol grip section.
It is not a Spanish M-95 carbine. See photo...
It appears to be a large ring Mauser action. of some sort based upon the inside of the stock.
The Model 1909 Argentine Carbine would have been a good candidate except that they used a side sling attachment up front and a solid steel side sling attach point on the rear which was screwed into a detent. And there is no pistol grip to the 1909 carbine stock.
You may also have some assorted parts stuck onto one bubba'ed stock....
A full length photo in daylight would be good and Crop the towel.
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Dreamcast270mhz
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@Sam
After seeing the second round of pics I now know that.
After seeing the second round of pics I now know that.
Maverick223
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Not 100% certain, but it looks like a Gewehr 98 (not a Karabiner) stock (stock relieved & bolt turned down) with a Swede front bbl band?
Turkish M46 short rifle, probably.
Here's how I determine this:
Firstly, the contour. Only Finnish M39 rifles had a pistol grip. The inletting for the action is not set up for a long narrow single-stack magazine, it's set up for a normal staggered Mauser box. It's a Mauser stock.
The stock has a bolt cut-out, meaning it's a carbine, not a cut-down long rifle, unless it's a super rare German Kar98B or Gew98M conversion, which this is not, because it has no grasping grooves.
Front band is a '93 type. Rifles using this pattern are South American 91, 93, and 95 actions, Spanish 93s and 1916s, Swedish 96 and 38s, and all Turks.
Since the Swedes have grasping grooves, and didn't use the through-the-stock slot for a sling, it's not Swedish.
Spanish carbines didn't have the slot either, and were '93 action. Not a 1916 short rifle stock.
This leaves us South American and Turk. It's too roughly done to be South American, the wood appears to be Beech, which was used heavily by Turks and not at all by South America. The sling slot was only used in a few South American carbines, and as I recall they did not have inlets for a bent bolt.
I also cannot recall off the top of my head any South American carbines that used a '91 rifle pattern bayonet lug rather than a muzzle-cap or '98 style H-band.
Ergo, it's Turk. Then comparing to my Turks, it's Turk. Look for a crescent stamped on the metal somewhere for verification.
Y'all that said Mosin need your eyes checked.
Here's how I determine this:
Firstly, the contour. Only Finnish M39 rifles had a pistol grip. The inletting for the action is not set up for a long narrow single-stack magazine, it's set up for a normal staggered Mauser box. It's a Mauser stock.
The stock has a bolt cut-out, meaning it's a carbine, not a cut-down long rifle, unless it's a super rare German Kar98B or Gew98M conversion, which this is not, because it has no grasping grooves.
Front band is a '93 type. Rifles using this pattern are South American 91, 93, and 95 actions, Spanish 93s and 1916s, Swedish 96 and 38s, and all Turks.
Since the Swedes have grasping grooves, and didn't use the through-the-stock slot for a sling, it's not Swedish.
Spanish carbines didn't have the slot either, and were '93 action. Not a 1916 short rifle stock.
This leaves us South American and Turk. It's too roughly done to be South American, the wood appears to be Beech, which was used heavily by Turks and not at all by South America. The sling slot was only used in a few South American carbines, and as I recall they did not have inlets for a bent bolt.
I also cannot recall off the top of my head any South American carbines that used a '91 rifle pattern bayonet lug rather than a muzzle-cap or '98 style H-band.
Ergo, it's Turk. Then comparing to my Turks, it's Turk. Look for a crescent stamped on the metal somewhere for verification.
Y'all that said Mosin need your eyes checked.
Maverick223
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I stand corrected...^that there's your stock, no question about it.
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