Gun thoughts from Cowboy & Aliens

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Did anybody watching this film notice the SAA the Harrison Ford character was using? The movie was set in 1873, but how likely is it that pistol would already be available in the civilian market that year?

There were some nice-looking Colt Navys, and a top-break S&W, but that one SAA seemed a bit early if only by a few months.

Also, did anyone get a good look at the lever gun used near the end?
 
heres a tip......

unless it is a diehard historical piece......a director/ producer/ prop master.....will ALWAYS sacrifice historical fact for the sake of film aesthetics.
 
Luckily for me I stayed awake. I'd have felt bad paying full ticket price for a one-hour nap :)

And even on a diehard historical piece, there are a few anachronisms that slide through. Guess I thought this one came closer than most.
 
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Ray P said:
Did anybody watching this film notice the SAA the Harrison Ford character was using? The movie was set in 1873, but how likely is it that pistol would already be available in the civilian market that year?


Maybe he won it in a poker game with a cavalry officer.
 
:confused: Didn't "James Bond" have some laser thingy attached to his wrist and was being attacked by aliens in space ships in this movie?

I don't think the issue of if a certain revolver was available to the public in 1873 is on my list of questions about this movie. Heck I want to know if that wrist laser thingy is available NOW! :D
 
Let me see if I follow this. In a movie about aliens invading the old West, the part that struck you as fanciful was gun being used that might not have been widely available at the time?
 
Its a movie, enjoy it for what it is. Now if he had a glock, then I'd be annoyed.

Heck maybe he knew a guy who knows a guy who works at the factory =p

Its also Harrison Ford...do not question his greatness!
 
Heck maybe he knew a guy who knows a guy who works at the factory =p

Reminds me of the video game Call of Duty Black Ops. Game takes place in the 60s yet there are weapons in it from the 80s. The makers excuse for horrible anachronisms? They're Black Ops, they get everything before everyone else which apparently includes the designers of the weapons also.
 
Colt had been chomping at the bit of S&Ws rights to the Rollin White patent for ages,

Maybe he's just a savvy early adopter of the "newfangled" pistols with the loading gate?

Any Schofields show up? Other guns with Conversion Cylinders?
 
There were a couple of cap n ball colt revolvers, at least 1 open top, a S&W "Russian" and a Spencer carbine. Also a couple of neat "Bowie" knives.
 
What really got me was that the aliens were flying early 1900 period ships! What a crock! :D
 
Alien invasion aside, Open Tops were available but even though the Single Action Army (hint) was adopted in late 1872, it was not available to the civilian market until a few years later.

They have been doing a lot better with the guns used in westerns over the last 10-15yrs or so. They're going to a lot more effort to get them right and to at least have some variety. We're seeing a lot more cartridge conversions too.
 
Its a movie, enjoy it for what it is. Now if he had a glock, then I'd be annoyed.
Agreed.

One thing I like about westerns is my lack of knowledge when it comes to period-correct firearms. So, unless they're using something like a glock, it doesn't get on my nerves.
 
A lot of Westerns (and even "Easterns" like "Zulu" (Webleys substituted for Adams revolvers because it seems nobody had a blank-firing Adams)) tend to use whatever is in the studio armory that (a) looks old and (b) fires blanks.

I do give kudos to movies that try for a little authenticity. Even if its just a Yellow Boy 1866 without forearm standing in for a Henry. Beats some movie I saw set in the 1850s (pre-Civil War) that had everyone using '92 winchesters and '73 colts.

(Watch some old pirate movies and you see Trapdoor Springfields used for muskets and sawn-off and restocked used for muzzleloader pistols.)

I am tempted to consult the books of Charles Fort for the proper UFO for that era.
 
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The guns had no recoil when fired

Hmm. Sounds like they may have dumped the blanks and just gone with CGI or these propane guns that the insurance companies like. They give a little blast of flame without the pressure wave (or recoil)
 
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