Would you be interested in this type of product?

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We have not gotten that far yet.

I will say this is constructed entirely of USA steel, its not like a plastic kit one might buy for their ruger 22.

We are just trying to gather some preliminary data (cost factor aside) if anyone out there would be interested in something like this; whether performance based, cosmetic based, or a combo of both. Or any other reason (tactical blunt instrument? lol jk)
 
We have not gotten that far yet.

I will say this is constructed entirely of USA steel, its not like a plastic kit one might buy for their ruger 22.

We are just trying to gather some preliminary data (cost factor aside) if anyone out there would be interested in something like this; whether performance based, cosmetic based, or a combo of both. Or any other reason (tactical blunt instrument? lol jk)

Not a problem - that makes complete sense. One thing I'd like to mention - It's not a good business decision to limit yourself to a very small market by making the following statement

TITAN308 said:
Please understand this is not a battlefield weapon and is a product for a user who shoots from a bench, sitting, prone, or other non-mobile position.

- what you design and use it for has little bearing on what uses the end user may find for the product. As I mentioned in the other thread, it has great potential for battlefield or defensive uses (especially the ported/muzzle brake model) as well as your stated benchrest purposes. Limiting yourself from the outset could potentially doom the product to fail before you even get it to market - when marketing a product, you want the largest possible target demographic.

Keep in mind, I'm not knocking you or your product, just offering my point of view from a business perspective.
 
Fair enough - however we made a decision that this would be marketed to a civilian user base if we ever got around to that part. If someone wishes to contact us for an outside of civilian purpose its not like the door isn't open for discussion.

So many companies have LEO/Military only sales, we felt we wanted to do the opposite, in a sense.

We do not want to give the impression that this was tested in battlefield conditions, as quite frankly it was not and until otherwise, never will be. We felt it important to make it very clear this product was for recreational use so no one feels jaded, cheated or disappointed if using it outside of this bubble.
 
Fair enough - however we made a decision that this would be marketed to a civilian user base if we ever got around to that part. If someone wishes to contact us for an outside of civilian purpose its not like the door isn't open for discussion.

So many companies have LEO/Military only sales, we felt we wanted to do the opposite, in a sense.

We do not want to give the impression that this was tested in battlefield conditions, as quite frankly it was not and until otherwise, never will be. We felt it important to make it very clear this product was for recreational use so no one feels jaded, cheated or disappointed if using it outside of this bubble.
Fully automatic weapons aren't illegal for civilians to own and use (in most states) with the proper paperwork. Many ranges rent fully automatic weapons to civilians for recreational shooting (perhaps you might discuss testing your prototype at one of these ranges if you have one local so you can see the obvious benefits provided).

I'm just saying that instead of saying "this product is for this use only" why not say "This product hasn't been tested in battlefield conditions, and performance under such conditions is not implied" or something along those lines - that way you're not closing any doors in order to avoid someone thinking it may be something it's not.

- again, not trying to argue, really just trying to help.
 
I see no practical use for this unless there is some sort of competition that would allow it. I can't imagine anybody would spend what it would cost just to plink at the range.
 
You mean like the people who I see with fully loaded military rifles that easily surpass $4,000 mark with equipment that will never see a minute of combat ever? Or the exploding "Zombie" market?

As far as competitions go, almost every type out there has an open class.

Edit: Just for clarification I do not expect any of the poll numbers to show any great amount of "Yes" answers. Its some data we would like none the less. We realized we would be marketing to a select niche field of clients; primarily those who like to collect functional rare custom pieces.

We still want to avoid the Wilson Combat/Nighthawk effect. (I hope someone gets the reference lol)
 
I had to go no on my interest in buying or owning.... For now.

Now, that said, I do find the project interesting, I'm just not sure it's a marketable concept right now.

I didn't see it, but have you quantified the advantage over the same basic weapons system where all things are equal?

Or another way to look at it - without underselling the idea - tell me in three sentences or less, why I should stop walking past your booth at say, the SHOT show, and take some time to look into it further.
 
We plan to record a demo of my 5 year old daughter firing the weapon with ease. Not sure if it gets any better than that.
 
I can't think of any reason to own a ~30-40 pound AR type rifle. I don't have any interest in this product nor foresee having any interest in the future.
 
That would be outstanding though getting her to fire a comparable non-titaned-up .308 would be mean, but maybe someone else firing a comparison rifle before and after to highlight the effect...
 
Looks cool but not good for zombies or for when North Korea invades, I'll pass.


:D Looks nice but not something I would be really interested in, haven't been bitten by the bench bug yet.
 
Yes, if I had to pick an existing market - it would be those who enjoy bench. You should try it out, its very addicting. :)
 
I am in the middle of a build on the DPMS lr-308 lower. The .308 you describe is interesting, but I plan on building another upper in .260 Rem that will be along these lines, but I am planning on a Krieger barrel and a Badger Ordnance forend. And a Magpul PRS stock.
 
Yes, if I had to pick an existing market - it would be those who enjoy bench. You should try it out, its very addicting.

I will whenever I get my bolt action rifle fixed. Probably won't happen for awhile cause I'm not too bothered to do that.
 
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