Curse the Ammo Shortage *pics*

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When I bought my varmint rifle I went for a .223 instead of a .22-250 because ".223 is what the AR15 uses, and that thing is so popular, .223 will always be cheap and plentiful" :banghead:

I can't afford to feed any of my long guns save the .22s and my handguns aren't cheap to supply in this climate of fear. I hope this dies down soon.

As a reward for reading my rant, enjoy pics of the aforementioned unfeedable varminter:

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Your post is the reason I preach on reloading and buying more components than one intends to use in the near future....My dedicated varmint rig is .22-250. I have never shot a single factory round. I have been using the same brass for nearly 15 years and been loading with components purchased nearly a decade ago.
 
ColtPythonElite said:
Your post is the reason I preach on reloading and buying more components than one intends to use in the near future....My dedicated varmint rig is .22-250. I have never shot a single factory round. I have been using the same brass for nearly 15 years and been loading with components purchased nearly a decade ago.
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Unfortunately, reloading is out of the question... I have a hard enough time keeping the guns and ammo on the property as it is, smokeless powder would not fly (I know it isn't very dangerous, but this isn't about what I know, it is about what my landlords assume), and the concept of "making my own ammunition" certainly wouldn't.
And yes I am working on moving.
 
How do the landlords know what you do behind a closed door in the privacy of your own home?.

Worse case, you could use an original Lee Loader or hand press. , Your needed gear and components would fit in a shoe box.
 
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How do the landlords know what you do behind a closed door in the privacy of your own home?.

Worse case, you could use an original Lee Loader or hand press. , Your needed gear and components would fit in a shoe box.
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It is their property, and I feel compelled to respect their right to determine what potentially harmful devices are brought onto it.
 
The Lee hand Loader may just be what you need? The process and or materials used in reloading are not any more dangerous then using or keeping household cleaning products.

You can keep a small kit of what you need to reload in a small box. You can load enough to hunt or target shoot in a reasonable period of time and you won't run out of ammo anymore!:)
 
How do the landlords know what you do behind a closed door in the privacy of your own home
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In TN, a landlord can enter and inspect the property with a 3 day notice anytime. If the lease says anything is prohibited, then it is if the tenant signed it. It's a difficult battle for the landlord to evict someone based on prohibited items, but if he proves they were there and then a fire or explosion occurs, the tenant could end up paying to rebuild the structure instead of the landlord's insurance company.

That being said, if a tenant gives no reason for a landlord to be suspicious, then the chances that the landlord would even ask for a search are slim.
 
Don't expect ammo prices to change. Availability will increase as the 'scare' dies down, but right now price is dictated by commodity prices, not consumer demand. So long as China and India keep buying copper and brass like it's going out of style. $0.50-$1.00/round will continue to be a reality.
 
Don't expect ammo prices to change. Availability will increase as the 'scare' dies down, but right now price is dictated by commodity prices, not consumer demand. So long as China and India keep buying copper and brass like it's going out of style. $0.50-$1.00/round will continue to be a reality.
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Not so.... Right now ammo prices have definitely been jacked up by a spike in demand. Prior to the spike, commodity prices had driven ammo prices to their "pre-scare" price levels, which is where prices will fall back to when the scare fades and demand decreases. Brass and copper prices are not what drove .223 to $800/case, but they did drive .223 to $350/case, and that is probably where they will land again once all the fear driven demand leaves the market.
 
right now price is dictated by commodity prices, not consumer demand.
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No, thats not presently the case at all. It might explain the gradual upward trend in ammo prices, but it doesn't account for already somewhat high prices doubling after Sandy Hook and the fallout from that shooting. Raw materials don't account for $100 bricks of 22 LR or buck a round 5.56. The CURRENT prices are fueled by unprecedented demand, not high material cost. I got an idea of just how much ammo was going off the shelves when SGammo had some 7.62x39 in stock. When I checked original, they had 250 1000 rd cases....thats a quarter million rounds of a single caliber from one distributer.....and it was gone in less than 18 hours. That is NOT normal demand, unless they were all but giving the ammo away.....which certainly wasn't the case.
 
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No, thats not presently the case at all. It might explain the gradual upward trend in ammo prices, but it doesn't account for already somewhat high prices doubling after Sandy Hook and the fallout from that shooting. Raw materials don't account for $100 bricks of 22 LR or buck a round 5.56. The CURRENT prices are fueled by unprecedented demand, not high material cost. I got an idea of just how much ammo was going off the shelves when SGammo had some 7.62x39 in stock. When I checked original, they had 250 1000 rd cases....thats a quarter million rounds of a single caliber from one distributer.....and it was gone in less than 18 hours. That is NOT normal demand, unless they were all but giving the ammo away.....which certainly wasn't the case.
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This shortage will go away, just as the 2008 ammo panic did. The strange thing is, nobody is talking about banning ammo. Hi-cap mags and 'assault weapons', yes.
 
This shortage will go away, just as the 2008 ammo panic did. The strange thing is, nobody is talking about banning ammo. Hi-cap mags and 'assault weapons', yes.
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Yes it will but it took close to a year for stock to return and I don't think the last one was as bad as this one has been. IMO
 
This thread needs pics of the ammo shortage. ;)

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Thanks for the pics, CmdrSlander, and I am sorry that you have found yourself to be high & dry vis-a-vis ammunition.

Too bad you did not, apparently, exhibit the foresight to develop & maintain an adequate contingency supply of ammunition for your firearms caliber(s).

Hopefully, the firearms/ammo insanity will calm down soon and you & your rifle will be back in action. :)
 
what twist is it?

i have seen some places with 80g SMK in stock at less than panic prices. if it's a fast twist that might work.

otherwise, you can still buy 223, it's just expensive
 
That Wal-Mart pic looks better than most I've seen...and I have been to three in SC recently...
 
.204 around here was on the shelf when no 223 could be had. Ar's and bolts available in that cal. Price is another matter.
 
Cmdrslander, can you post a picture of your rifle from the top? or a top angle? I'd like to see how the forend flares to flat and how much wood is on the sides of the barrel channel. I want to build a very similar rifle to yours, and am concerned about fitting a varmint contour barrel into a boyds stock.

excellent pictures by the way.
 
I don't know where some of you guys are shopping, but I haven't seen a price change in ammo at my LGS or the big box stores in the last six months. Who the HELL is paying $800 for a case of. 223 or $100 for a brick of. 22??? My LGS has 62gr 5.56 (855) for around $200 for a can of 420, and bricks of bulk .22LR is still $15 at Walmart.

Whoever you're shopping from is gouging you.
 
taliv said:
what twist is it?

i have seen some places with 80g SMK in stock at less than panic prices. if it's a fast twist that might work.

otherwise, you can still buy 223, it's just expensive
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It is a 1 in 9 twist, if I ever get it rebarreled I will go for a 1 in 7 or 1 in 8 with a Wylde chamber, but this gun had less than 500 rounds through it so rebarreling is a long way off.
 
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