Obama Blames U.S. for Mexican Gun Violence

I disagree. I don't think any liberal supporters care if he lies at all.

mljdeckard said:

I disagree. I don't think any liberal supporters care if he lies at all.

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Not all liberals are die hard 0bama brain washed fanatics. Some of them still understand what America stands for, and see right through him.

But they vote for him anyway.

You got drugs. You got gang lords. You got warlords. You have people hanged. You have supply and demand for drugs. You have people hacked up. You have huge egos. You have huger money. You have porous border control.

And I purposely left out Fast and Furious!

But the root of the problem is our 2nd amendment? Who voted for this political hack anyway?

Speaking of Hillary, Obama is so far out there, even SHE has distanced herself from him!

They did, yes. Since they can't do that again, he's got nothing to lose. He no longer really needs their support (but he really does if the Left has any chance of winning the House in 2014, and maintaining their majority in the senate).

He lost on Gun control, he's losing on Immigration. He's got nothing else to lose, but it still doesn't explain this sell out. I fear he has some other motive up his sleeve, something he doesn't need public support to shove through.

All of the money that is used by Drug Gangs, laundered through banks like HSBC B, to pay corrupt Mexican Politicians, comes from America. If Obama wanted to really crack down on gun crime in Mexico, he ought to start on the Bankers.

Incidentally, did not the Mexican Government disarm the population? That explains how the Cops and Drug Gangs get to kill lots of innocent Mexicans because the people can’t shoot back.

This BBC radio 4 program was an interesting listen on how badly broken the Mexican Government, and the Government is unable to control armed gangs and drug lords:

Mexico's Village Vigilantes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rw2zg

YEah by the us GOVERNMENT but I guess the moron is half right.

Well, the US prohibition of (some) drugs IS the factor that makes the violent Mexican cartels economically viable so it IS our fault.


Ever see any of the videos that the cartels make?

Chainsaw beheadings.
Women being hacked to death with axes,burned alive, sodomized to death with crowbars
Folks being forced to eat their own fingers and ears.

We the people facilitate atrocity every time we go to the polls.

OilyPablo said:

Who voted for this political hack anyway?

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The American people, the majority of whom these days expect government--particularly the federal government--to give things to them and take care of them from sperm to worm. :banghead:

I honestly wonder if the media will even mention Fast and Furious with this one.

I posted this on my Facebook, regarding his 90% for UBC. It seems to fit here as well.

Regardless of Obama's affirmation bias regarding all matters Constitutional, I have lost what little passive faith I held in him. The instant I hear his voice, I steady myself for his latest episode of cognitive constipation, with verbal incontinence, with a goodly mix of brainless, mindless, heartless, irrational, and contrived non-thought. If he possesses any value or conviction of his own in that brain, it hasn't as of yet been loosed for public display.

That said, my condolences to the man, as it must hurt profusely being the puppet who sits atop Feinstein's, Pelosi's and Schumer's hands. I don't even want to know how they have managed to get the strings from their hands to his mouth and eyes. Must hurt like Hades!!! Poor man!!! Yes sirree Bobbin! Don't care how you slice it, that's a lotta hands to have rammed up one's "backside", and pullin' your strings.

And you all wondered why he walks funny...kinna stiff. Reflect on your last prostate exam, and magnify depth, girth, and persistence exponentially. The poor man would espouse any set of numbers to get his puppeteers to loose their grip. Would you not do the same?!

Edit to add: What?!?! You know you agree. 8^)

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Geno

I really have nothing to say. We just keep on vetoing these same Clowns in over and over again. Want real change vote the Bums out.

glove said:

We just keep on vetoing these same Clowns in over and over again. Want real change vote the Bums out.

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That's the real answer, but I doubt that I'll see it in my lifetime.

Obama:
‘I think many of you know that in America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms,’ Obama said. ‘And as president, I swore an oath to uphold that right, and I always will.’

‘But at the same time, as I’ve said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people.’

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If he believed that, he would stop enforcing Federal marijuana laws, and start pushing marijuana legalization. THAT is a common sense reform that would dry up the money for the "criminals and dangerous people". The cartels aren't interested in limes.

BTW, I don't pretend that legalization comes without some downsides. I think those downsides are a lot less expensive in lives and dollars than the current war on the Mexican cartels, and the U.S. "war on drugs", or even the war over a street corner in Chicago. It's time to end those wars.

liberation1776 said:

I honestly wonder if the media will even mention Fast and Furious with this one.

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I don't, as it obviously would not help advance the agenda they share.

He lost on Gun control, he's losing on Immigration

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I agree with the post this came from but this part....


"He" hasn't lost on gun control until he is out of office. Don't raise the victory flag yet... or ever.


"He" also hasn't lost on immigration because the GOP are easing toward a middle ground in an effort to win the presidency in 2016. Once an agreement is reached, "He" will claim victory for that too.

Who is his mentor but good ole Clintonite.

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He makes B. Clinton look like a Saint.

If you look on any gun related article be in on Yahoo, CNN or whatever web news organization when a politician makes a statement like this, or when a anti-gun article is posted the comments by readers far often dismiss and counteract against them.

Once again people will say that this comment by the president is wrong and off the mark and I believe the open internet is a large part of what stops the anti-gunners from getting away with their propaganda.

The way I see it, if you look at photos of guns confiscated from cartels, is a majority of them are from black markets that originated from government sales be it from the U.S.A, Russia or China. I see photos of RPG and grenades from drug cartels, they sure aren't getting THOSE from a American civilian gun store or gun show.

America and Russia supplied countries in latin America and Africa during the cold war and I think a lot of those weapons made it to the black market and then into drug cartel hands. A real AK-47 can be bought for $20 to $50 dollars in some parts of south America or Africa why would a cartel buy one from a American gunshow that is traceable and just semi-auto for $600? Same with a AR-15 vs a M16.

Every time a Mexican soldier defects to a cartel if he takes his M16 with him that rifle originated from a U.S government sale it didn't come from a civilian gun show,

Governments especially the U.S , Russian and Chinese are the biggest cartels and gun runners of them all. And then there is the failed U.S war on drugs that creates the market for drugs and violence to begin with.

The politicians need to be confronted on this when they try to shift blame on civilians.

"...as president, I swore an oath to uphold that right [RKBA], and I always will...But at the same time...I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people."

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That said, he could have added: If I can achieve passage of laws that instantly turn most law-abiding gun owners into "criminals" and regulations that make it easy to declare just about anyone to be "dangerous," I can disarm most of America's current gun owners and still say that all qualified Americans still have their guns. Hurray for me.

Obama continues to rant about US guns causing crime in Mexico. Folks are being killed by the tens of thousands in Mexico because US citizens have an insatiable appetite for dope.

Goodness he is worse than Jimmy Carter and I never thought I would live to see one worse but I have.

What a piece of work the President of the USA is.

Wonder if he set up meetings with the families who lost loved ones at the hands of his and Holder's "Fast and Furious" scam? How can you let guns walk when you know the only way to trace them is at scenes of murder?
It's also interesting to me, these liberals have their plan, flood Mexico with American firearms so they can attempt to abridge our 2nd amendment rights. The plan backfires,,, but after a period of time, they continue on, just as if their plan worked. It's like he planned to deliver this speech , and lo and behold, he IS going to deliver the speech! Whether F&F worked or not. I'm just befuddled,,,,, and not one question of him concerning F&F,,,, just mind boggling,,

Apparently Zero doesn't know that Mexico also has a southern border with Guatemala and Belize through which some major armament travels into Mexico.

Oh, I must have forgotten.........all of the RPGs, grenades, heavy machine guns and other military grade weapons plaguing Mexico are bought at gun shows in the U.S.

BullfrogKen said:

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I never thought I'd live to see a President worse than Carter.


Never say never, right?

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It's actually no coincidence that Presidents Carter and Obama mirror one another. Renowned globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who mentored Carter during his presidency as his national security advisor, now has a huge influential presence on Obama.