Dumb, dumb. Dumb!!!

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And yet, he is completely within his rights, and had the police not attempted to abridge his rights, nothing would have happened.

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Right or not he was breaking the law, and had he not broken the law he might he might not be in jail. Should have done a little more research before he showed them!!

Unless im mistaken, and I may be, carrying in a school zone is a felony. He may have just lost the right he was fighting for.
 
Unless im mistaken, and I may be, carrying in a school zone is a felony. He may have just lost the right he was fighting for
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In some states not so. I'm not sure about where this occured, in AZ with a CCW permit, you may enter school zones, even park in the parking lot. You can't enter the school with a gun however. It's one of the best benifits of having your CCW here, as you don't need to always worry if you're in a school zone. 1000 feet is a large area to encompase, you're literally always in a school zone here.

And yet, he is completely within his rights
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We don't know that yet.
 
Hes still an idiot

Just because something is within your rights dose not mean you should do it for no other reason!
 
Sounds like another one of those cop-baiters making another "I know my rights" videos so he can be a YouTube hero.
 
Typically I've always been a believer to exercise your Rights, right after Sandy Hook even I agreed people shouldn't walk around streets with AR15's just to prove a point. Now that we've given it time to cool off I think open carry is an important issue to be pushed.
 
It is complete idiots like this that give the normal gun owner a bad name. People like this should not be allowed to even own a gun.
 
oneounceload

What are the rules in Wisconsin where this happened?
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A quick google search turned up this
http://www.lawserver.com/law/state/wisconsin/wi-laws/wisconsin_laws_948-605


Wisconsin Statutes > Chapter 948 > 948.605

Current as of: 2013
Check for updates
2011 version
(1) Definitions. In this section:

(a) "Encased" has the meaning given in s. 167.31 (1) (b).

(ac) "Firearm" does not include any beebee or pellet-firing gun that expels a projectile through the force of air pressure or any starter pistol.

(am) "Motor vehicle" has the meaning given in s. 340.01 (35).

(b) "School" has the meaning given in s. 948.61 (1) (b).

(c) "School zone" means any of the following:

1. In or on the grounds of a school.

2. Within 1,000 feet from the grounds of a school.

(2) Possession of firearm in school zone.

(a) Any individual who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is in or on the grounds of a school is guilty of a Class I felony. Any individual who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is within 1,000 feet of the grounds of a school is subject to a Class B forfeiture.

(b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm by any of the following:

1m. A person who possesses the firearm in accordance with 18 USC 922 (q) (2) (B) (i), (iv), (v), (vi), or (vii).

1r. Except if the person is in or on the grounds of a school, a licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (d), or an out-of-state licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (g).

2m. A state-certified commission warden acting in his or her official capacity.

3. That is not loaded and is:

a. Encased; or

b. In a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;

3m. A person who is legally hunting in a school forest if the school board has decided that hunting may be allowed in the school forest under s. 120.13 (38).

(3) Discharge of firearm in a school zone.

(a) Any individual who knowingly, or with reckless disregard for the safety of another, discharges or attempts to discharge a firearm at a place the individual knows is a school zone is guilty of a Class G felony.

(b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the discharge of, or the attempt to discharge, a firearm:

1. On private property not part of school grounds;

2. As part of a program approved by a school in the school zone, by an individual who is participating in the program;

3. By an individual in accordance with a contract entered into between a school in a school zone and the individual or an employer of the individual; or

4. By a law enforcement officer or state-certified commission warden acting in his or her official capacity.
 
NavyLCDR said:
I wonder how many of Rosa Parks' contemporaries said exactly the same thing about her.
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The usual irrelevant "Rosa Parks" comment. Folks should really make an effort to learn what and how things actually happened back in 1955 before they start throwing Mrs. Parks' name around.

  1. Rosa Parks had a long history of being actively involved in the organized Civil Rights Movement:
    ... joining the Montgomery chapter of the NAACP in 1943, serving as the chapter's youth leader as well as secretary to NAACP President E.D. Nixon—a post she held until 1957...
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  2. At the time of her arrest Mrs. Parks was an adviser to the NAACP.

  3. On 1 December 1955, Rosa Parks was the third African-American since March of that year to be arrested for violating the Montgomery bus segregation law. One was Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl who was arrested some nine months earlier. E. D. Nixon decided that Claudette would be a poor "poster-child" for a protest because she was unmarried and pregnant.

  4. The night of Mrs. Parks' arrest, Jo Ann Robinson, head of the Women's Political Council, printed and circulated a flyer throughout Montgomery's black community starting the call for a boycott of Montgomery's city buses.

  5. Martin Luther King, Jr., as president of the Montgomery Improvement Association and pastor of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, together with other Black community leaders, then organized the boycott of the Montgomery bus system. That boycott reduced Black ridership (the bulk of the bus system's paying customers) of Montgomery city buses by some 90% until December of 1956 when the Supreme Court ruled that the bus segregation laws of Montgomery, Alabama were unconstitutional (Gayle v. Browder, 352 U.S. 903 (1956)).

  6. Mrs. Parks actions and arrest were part of a well orchestrated, well organized program leading to a successful conclusion.
 
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was he within 1000 feet? it doesn't say in the article. If he wasn't I doubt he will be charged in the end. If it is the case that he wasn't within 1000 feet why should he be charged or not be able to own a gun like what some here feel? My feelings are its his time and money I have better things to do than attract attention and spend time weeding things out with police and judges.
 
I carry everyday, I teach gun safety courses to our local homeschool group, and my representatives know my name with regard to battling for the RKBA. I strongly support arming teachers and/or having outside security armed in schools.

This guy may have every right, and god bless him for it, but heaven help the two of us if he shows up at an elementary school with my kids in it given recent events. Not smart IMO. There are far more effective ways to challenge the system that don't involve this type of unneeded risk and negative optics.

If he wants to challenge the law, speed through NYC with a few 8 round mags loaded to the brim riding on the dash, and then work the legal end to a good conclusion. I would contribute to his defense. But a school? Come on now......
 
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The impression I get from the article is the he was with in 1000' but your right it doesn't say specifically. And just for clarity, I don't know the facts so I can't say if he should be charged or not. I will also say I has long been the only people that should lose their right own a gun is violent offenders, but that isn't the law and my opinion doesn't matter.
 
I don't have a rangefinder, but I'd bet that my house is within 1000ft. of the elementary school across the street. Certainly that close to the school yard itself, not sure about the building. I could throw a baseball into their yard from my yard, and I throw like an old woman. I CCW when I walk my dogs by there, but I'm not going to throw on my AR and go waddling past it.
 
Yoda said:
Grandstanding like this could cost us all our rights!
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Grandstanding is a matter of viewpoint. There is very little info in this case, but as a general matter, a right you are afraid to exercise is, for all practical purposes, already lost.

Frank Ettin said:
The usual irrelevant "Rosa Parks" comment.
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Ettin's Law (after Godwin's Law): As a THR thread about Open Carry grows longer, the probability of the open carrier being compared to Rosa Parks approaches 1.
 
Someone say Hitler?

It seems like this article will get us nowhere without knowing the distance between him and the school.
If so, he was in violation, if not, not.
 
After New Port, the man was wrong, no ands, ifs, or buts. No one has the right to yell fire in a crowed theater, which is what he did. He should be charge and whatever. Before you flame me. I have been a Life member of the NRA for 50 years, Retired Army after 27 years and have been awarded two medals for valor. I for one am getting very tired of jerks like this. Sorry , my rant and my opinion.:banghead:
 
Interesting history lesson, seems like Ms Parks was a set up and a well calculated one at that. A dozen years as an activist but all I remember learning about was this common laborer who refused to give up her seat.
I bet they wish they had YouTube back then.
 
RustHunter87 writes:

Just because something is within your rights does not mean you should do it for no other reason!
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..and David W. Gay responds with:

Yes it does.
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No, it doesn't. One should have a reason for doing pretty much anything beyond the simple reason that he/she "has a right" to do it.

I have a "right" to play loud music from my truck's stereo, but I'll be angry if someone tells me I "should" just because of that. If I do it, it will be because I want to.

Seriously, do you do everything you have a right to, just because you have that right?
 
X-Rap said:
Interesting history lesson, seems like Ms Parks was a set up and a well calculated one at that. A dozen years as an activist but all I remember learning about was this common laborer who refused to give up her seat....
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And understand that my filling in the details is not intended to disparage Mrs. Parks' contribution. My purpose is to show that effective activism is not just a matter of "tweaking" someone's nose.

I'm not sure that we can know if Mrs. Parks' arrest was planned or if the local Civil Rights Movement leadership recognized the opportunity it presented and were able to promptly act on it. But I think that we can reasonably infer that the Civil Rights Movement leaders in Montgomery had the city's bus segregation ordinance on its radar, had targeted it for action, had a plan, and wanted the right tripping point.

Compare that to the typical self-styled RKBA "activist" who goes and does something to get a few inches of ink in the newspaper and some video on YouTube, and then fades away (except as the subject of contentious threads on various gun forums).

Overall, various public demonstrations by members of the RKBA community have had little success developing support for 2A issues. During the days of the Civil Rights Movement, a great many Whites (including important and influential Whites) came to care very deeply about the plight of Blacks. How many folks who don't own guns really care all that much about the gun rights of gun owners?
 
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I carry when and where I have a reason to, in accordance with the law, not carry just because I can and definitely not carry in a manner that would alarm bystanders unfamiliar with guns or puzzled by the when and where involved.

Oh, I imagine a lot of people were humiliated by the bus segregation and fed up with it; Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat may not have been as spontaneous as the bare facts presented in court, but the bare forensic facts were the relevant facts. I am sure someone will come along and say that Heller and MacDonald were groomed as perfect cases to test handgun prohibition in D.C. and Chicago.
 
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