Obama on pitbulls...analogy time

"We don't support firearm-specific legislation -- research shows that bans on certain types of firearms are largely ineffective and often a waste of public resources...The CDC also noted that the types of people who look to exploit firearms aren't deterred by gun control regulations -- when their communities establish a ban, these people just seek out new, unregulated firearms. And the simple fact is that guns of any type can become dangerous when they're intentionally or unintentionally used to for harm."

I'd be careful with the last sentence since guns aren't "aggressive" or dangerous on their own. I'd point out that unlike a dog that can act on its own a firearm is incapable of doing anything. A person picks it up and uses it for ill or good just as any tool is used.

Ironic. Too bad he doesn't feel that way about firearms. Wonder why?

Guys,

Let's not drift into a dog discussion.

Stay focused on the OP's plan and help to distribute it or make suggestions on how to enhance it or this will turn into a dog topic instead of 2A.

Folks,

Once again, and for the final time, we need to focus on what to do with this opportunity to turn this to a 2A purpose.

Rants about President Obama, love or fear of dogs, or any other drift simply aren't useful.

We have a gift on a platter given to us in the statement made by POTUS and we need to put it to use.

Some have pointed out the irony of the President of the United States getting involved in a discussion of laws concerning certain breeds of dogs in the midst of the controversies and problems in this country. The "wasting time" aspect doesn't tie directly to the 2A defense, but it can be useful.

Others have pointed out the irony of POTUS making our case for the 2A supporter by analogy. Public perception, the abuse of something powerful by a very few and the fear it produces are analogous to the firearms debate. A very few misuse firearms to commit crimes and abuse their power, but the public perception is manipulated to create a greater public impression of risk than statistics and facts show exists. So how do we use this?

We don't turn it against President Obama right away in one on one discussions where we're trying to show someone that's been brainwashed by a biassed media. The best thing is to point out that POTUS has come to the defense of these breeds and to point out the parallels between the arguments. If the person tries to claim one is not like the other it becomes our responsibility to provide the facts about firearms and violence and point out that the entertainment industry and news media aren't interested in showing boring safe situations since their goal is to quicken the pace and ramp up the adrenaline and capture the attention with tales of horror whether it is an American Pit or a pistol. We have to know that the violent crime and firearms deaths have been dropping since the drug war fueled 80's (yes, I know that there are other socioeconomic factors that drove the violent crime rate to an all time high in that decade) so that the risk of a violent crime is lower than it has been in a generation. We need to point out that more people own the firearms the Antis are fearmongering about in contrast to this low violent crime rate. We need to point out that people have begun to fight back against the prejudice and lies about firearms and these breeds because the truth is that only a very few abuse either and that much more good is done because of them than any harm.

Surrendering the greater middle ground of uncommitted and fence sitters because the two ends of the argument can't be swayed doesn't get us anywhere. Those people that are open to persuasion are where we can make gains as opposed to the committed antis who are invested in destroying the 2A. Giving up the culture struggle assures us of losing.

Tuner this isn't the forum for negativity. The very reason for it to exist is in the belief that action can be taken that is beneficial.

That's written into the description of the purpose of the forum and into the scope for us.

When we give up we have no reason to participate.