Sgt.Murtaugh
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could someone explain this to me? Why would universal background checks require people to register their guns?
Why would universal background checks require people to register their guns?
There are people on this site who have gotten calls from police officers or visits when a gun they purchased was used in a crime. They were found via the 4473 they filled out when the purchase was made.
How is that not registration?
The government claims that it is somehow not registration, despite the fact that the merchant is required to maintain it for a certain number of years. All they have to do is call the manufacturer and find out where the SN was shipped to.
got it. thanks guys.
so as it stands now, regular transfers and new gun purchases are actually registering a firearm to your name, correct?
With a UBC, are they going to give a receipt to every person to 'prove' it went through a UBC?
They can't pick up a bullet off the street and trace it to a gun, then a person.
That almost sounds like the shell microstamping is a calculated failure in order to get back to bullet microstamp registration.^
Just to add on to the Microstamping faults, it's also a measure that can easily be removed with a file
In a country where the NSA illegally spies on all electronic communications, including credit card transactions, it's not difficult to figure out that a $1,500 charge is a likely the purchase of a gun. Visa and other credit cards include a merchant code in the transaction and they have a merchant code for gun stores. If the NSA is willing to illegally access your map data on your phone, why would they suddenly find it immoral to track gun purchase data?
danez71 said:*The shell on the ground traced back to a gun then traced back to a person still doesn't prove the person pulled the trigger.
so then why couldn't a private seller to private buyer transfer be the same thing? a form that simply verifies if the recipient is eligible to purchase a gun. why would the specific gun info have to carry over with it?No, not directly. When the BC is conducted, it's only to prove that you are legal to purchase a firearm at that particular point in time. The 4473 is supposed to be a record of you being cleared to buy it. Since it also specifies the firearm you purchased, by default, it becomes a registration of sorts but that's not its purpose. That's why everyone gets up in arms when the ATF comes around wanting to blanket copy 4473s.
Since it also specifies the firearm you purchased, by default, it becomes a registration of sorts but that's not its purpose