As an aside, you can click "thread tools" at the top of a thread, and choose "subscribe" from there.
Might be a simpler way to keep track of interesting threads.
Thanks for the tip Derek. Was sitting in the waiting room at the hospital and trying to figure out the new tapatalk app (I've never played with it before), when I was reading this thread.
Both California and Illinois (particularly Cook County) have been going around confiscating guns from people who are no longer 'qualified' to own firearms. It was mentioned here on THR and elsewhere that the problem is that those "lists" are not always accurate and innocent people have had their firearms confiscated as well. California has their registry to work from and Illinois has their FOID (Firearms Owner ID Card) to work from .
Well, here we have an interesting situation in Illinois that is starting to pave the way for stuff like this.
Four pieces of worrisome legislation was inserted in to our concealed carry legislation when it passed last year.
#1 Universal Background Checks (ended face to face sales without state police authorization for each transaction)
#2 Mandatory lost and stolen reporting; limited time to report lost or stolen guns
#3 Mandatory physical revocation of FOID on becoming a suspended person, PLUS you have 48 hours to dispose/transfer all firearms AND give the state police a disposition form for all firearms, make, model, caliber, and serial number, which were disposed of. Failure to do so results in search/seizure/confiscation. In addition any minors under 21 who were "sponsored" by the prohibited person have THEIR FOID cards revoked, and have to surrender /transfer their firearms, or face criminal prosecution.
#4 New mental health guidelines - including mandated reporting by any health care provider, or educational providers (teachers, etc), for adults or children who pose a "clear and present danger". Whoever is accused of being a clear and present danger does not get to confront their accuser, it's anonymous. FOID card is revoked, and see #3 for result.
Taken individually there is not a "significant threat" and many could read in to some of this that it's "good business" to keep guns out of the wrong hands.
But taken together.. mighty potent legislation.
In #2 and #4 you don't get the right to confront your accuser or prove your innocence - an emergency order of protection can be brought against anyone for any reason "he threatened me", and until it goes before a judge to get dismissed, you are a prohibited person. Meanwhile you have 48 hours to dispose of firearms and report ALL of that info, to the state police or face search & seizure. There's no mandate that they have to destroy those records.
Same with #4; no ability to confront accuser of "clear and present danger", and no possibility of knowing who accused you of being a "clear and present danger" unless they volunteer the information. No recourse other than going to get psychological evaluation from someone else to prove you aren't; you are guilty until proven innocent. Meanwhile, guns have to be disposed of (to another party, or to the police), because FOID is revoked. And state keeps a record of everything you own, with no requirement to destroy the information.
They may not line people up and knock on the doors here, but they're getting things like this passed through in the interest of "The National Discussion", and it's really starting to add up.