Understanding that violence is a means to an end, not an end unto itself shifts our perspective. For good or bad, it opens a panorama of possibilities about violence. Both in its nature and in how extreme it can become.
A quote from MacYoung's website-He however is framing it from a criminal's perspective; something to be gained, a wallet, the day's receipts in the till, your Rolex, etc.
He neglects the fact that more and more violent actors are doing so for 'the thrill' or 'I wanted to see what it felt like', i.e., no tangible gain in sight. Some want a gain that they hope will be posthumous-by killling as many as possible before being taken out themselves, or commiting suicide in the face of that-they get their 15 minutes. While such attacks are not as common as the MSM would like us to think, they are not generally defeated by MacYoungs approach of 'not fanning the flames'. Such people (I use the term as a nicety) are only defeated by swift violence of action in resistance to them. It is the last thing they expect, (at least initially) and it is the only response they understand: Power.
The first thing I learned in Small Unit tactics in ROTC was, "If ambushed, attack with everything you have as swiftly as you can. You are in the kill zone, and only savagery and firepower will get you out alive."
If you read the book, you overlooked a lot of it.He neglects the fact that more and more violent actors are doing so for 'the thrill' or 'I wanted to see what it felt like', i.e., no tangible gain in sight
"Tangible item" was not in MacYoung's sentence.The classic and well known current example demonstrating that this "something [tangible item] to be gained" perception is wrong...the knockout game.
I went to his website. While I thought the warnings against letting the monkey brain take over were excellent, I don't know that I feel comfortable with his advice to believe the BG who says "Give me your money and you won't get hurt."
Also, at least in the time I spent on the site, I didn't see anything about a scenario like a guy bursts into a Bible study class waving an AK-47 and yelling allahu akbar, at that point is there really anything to "negotiate"?
Wow, that guy was amazing, imagine, a 5-shot .38 spl was all he had against multiple terrorists with assault rifles and grenades but the two shots he fired with it wounded one of them and sent them all fleeing.I didn't see anything about a scenario like a guy bursts into a Bible study class waving an AK-47 and yelling allahu akbar
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/0979045118...qmt=b&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_3m8l9p2a84_b
for that ...
Kleanbore wrote:Posted by entropy:If you read the book, you overlooked a lot of it.
Posted by Warp:"Tangible item" was not in MacYoung's sentence.
Why would one conclude that the "knockout game" is not about "something to be gained"?
Just found a recent article about van Wyk in which he commented on the Charleston tragedy. He also reported that he is currently "working to develop a curriculum for training African churches to defend themselves against Islamic and Communist aggression." See http://www.breitbart.com/california...sacre-by-gods-grace-i-managed-to-return-fire/Wow, that guy was amazing, imagine, a 5-shot .38 spl was all he had against multiple terrorists with assault rifles and grenades but the two shots he fired with it wounded one of them and sent them all fleeing.
That varies--social status, reputation, prestige, acceptance....What is gained [through participation in the knockout game]?
I thought we were talking about whether there is something the victim can give the attacker to make him go away without inflicting physical harm, in the knockout game there is nothing.Posted by old lady new shooter:That varies--social status, reputation, prestige, acceptance....
Much of MacYoung's book dresses violence done for purposes other than robbery for material gain.
I don't know what brought that up.I thought we were talking about whether there is something the victim can give the attacker to make him go away without inflicting physical harm, in the knockout game there is nothing.
In the book he points out that if the perp's motive is robbery, and if he isn't spooked, he is unlikely to shoot if he gets what he wants.On the website he indicates to give BG what he asks for.