Nikon Prostaff or Leupold VX-1

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As has been said in different ways but never directly here, an equal quality lens that is larger will transmit more light to your eye. A larger lens of lower quality may or may not transmit more light to your eye. What has been stated in a way that feels misleading is that the larger objective gives a wider FOV. The lens itself has nothing to do with FOV. They tend to go together in that it's easier to get a clear and large FOV with a larger objective, but the front lens diameter doesn't change FOV.

From the Prostaff Vs VX-1 point of view, I feel the image through the Prostaff is better slightly. The turrets are about the same. The Reliability for each has been fairly consistent and good. Leupold's warranty will be better and easier.

Up until the 2012 update, I hated the VX-1 line. The friction turrets were a joke and the lenses weren't good. It did very little right compared to the competition except have Leupold behind it. Now, the lenses are decent/good and the turrets are click adjustable. Add in everything else Leupold does well and it's a solid option. Nikon has always seemed to have better glass for the money, at any of the price points. Their turrets, especially on their more expensive lines, have also always felt better to me than Leupold turrets on a similar priced optic. Both brands seem to track well enough though. Where Nikon fails is warranty work. You may or may not need it, but should that day come, I'd hope the scope had a gold ring.

It's harder (and more expensive) to make a large lens as error free as a small lens. So an equal quality large lens should cost more money. When you try to replace quality with size, it's the wrong approach. It should be buy quality first, and get as much size as the budget allows not buy size first and then as much quality as the budget allows. The other point here is that a less expensive scope with a 50mm objective should reasonably have cheaper/fewer coatings as well as more flaws in the lenses themselves than a smaller objective lens. On a budget optic, I'd rather pay the same for fewer features but better quality than more features and sacrifice a bit of quality. Once you get into $400-$500+ optics, the lens quality seems to be good enough for my uses and adding features in over improved glass makes sense.

The one good thing with your options is that neither are junk. You aren't comparing two bad optics from two bad companies. Neither is a wrong choice. They have their own pros and cons and either can quite realistically be a great option for a long time.

When you start to talk about the VX-2, I'd instantly jump that direction. The VX-2 line seems to me to be Leupold's sweet spot for price/performance ratio. I can't knock people spending more for a VX-3 or other option but if find my diminishing returns fall squarely at the VX-2. If you're really considering a VX-2 along with the VX-1 and Prostaff, buy the VX-2 and never look back.
 
Keep in mind that today's VX-1 is comparable to a pre-2012 VX-II. and the VX-2 is comparable to a pre-2012 VX-III. The new VX-3 had the Zeiss Conquest as it's target. It's close.
 
As has been said in different ways but never directly here, an equal quality lens that is larger will transmit more light to your eye. A larger lens of lower quality may or may not transmit more light to your eye. What has been stated in a way that feels misleading is that the larger objective gives a wider FOV. The lens itself has nothing to do with FOV. They tend to go together in that it's easier to get a clear and large FOV with a larger objective, but the front lens diameter doesn't change FOV.

From the Prostaff Vs VX-1 point of view, I feel the image through the Prostaff is better slightly. The turrets are about the same. The Reliability for each has been fairly consistent and good. Leupold's warranty will be better and easier.

Up until the 2012 update, I hated the VX-1 line. The friction turrets were a joke and the lenses weren't good. It did very little right compared to the competition except have Leupold behind it. Now, the lenses are decent/good and the turrets are click adjustable. Add in everything else Leupold does well and it's a solid option. Nikon has always seemed to have better glass for the money, at any of the price points. Their turrets, especially on their more expensive lines, have also always felt better to me than Leupold turrets on a similar priced optic. Both brands seem to track well enough though. Where Nikon fails is warranty work. You may or may not need it, but should that day come, I'd hope the scope had a gold ring.

It's harder (and more expensive) to make a large lens as error free as a small lens. So an equal quality large lens should cost more money. When you try to replace quality with size, it's the wrong approach. It should be buy quality first, and get as much size as the budget allows not buy size first and then as much quality as the budget allows. The other point here is that a less expensive scope with a 50mm objective should reasonably have cheaper/fewer coatings as well as more flaws in the lenses themselves than a smaller objective lens. On a budget optic, I'd rather pay the same for fewer features but better quality than more features and sacrifice a bit of quality. Once you get into $400-$500+ optics, the lens quality seems to be good enough for my uses and adding features in over improved glass makes sense.

The one good thing with your options is that neither are junk. You aren't comparing two bad optics from two bad companies. Neither is a wrong choice. They have their own pros and cons and either can quite realistically be a great option for a long time.

When you start to talk about the VX-2, I'd instantly jump that direction. The VX-2 line seems to me to be Leupold's sweet spot for price/performance ratio. I can't knock people spending more for a VX-3 or other option but if find my diminishing returns fall squarely at the VX-2. If you're really considering a VX-2 along with the VX-1 and Prostaff, buy the VX-2 and never look back.
Yep.
 
I'm a little late to this party and no where near as knowledgeable as most here. That said, I own a VX-1 and a VX-2, both in 40 mm. I have no experience with Nikon so I can't offer a comparison. I have nothing against Nikon. The counter guy recommended a Leupold, I liked the way I could see through it and so I bought.

I am very happy with both scopes. Where they really shine is low light. Here in Kansas, shooting starts at 30 minutes before sunup and closes 30 minutes after sundown. Shooting at those ends is not a problem with either one. As I said, I am very happy with both scopes in general and that includes low light shots.

Again not knocking Nikon or Meopta, I just have no experience with them. Hope this helps. Good luck. I bet you will be thrilled with any of those choices.
 
Nikon Products

On all of the Apollo Moon Missions there were Nikon cameras.

The warranty is for the life of the Nikon Scope regardless of the owner.

I do not recall a single Leupold product that was chosen to go on the moon missions.

Nikon products are the standard from which all other optics are measured.

Ask any professional what brand of optics are the best-they will say Nikon.

It is what it is...:)
 
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Nikon's space program optics are certainly a different animal than their budget based rifle scopes. There is no doubt they can produce a quality optic. That doesn't mean the base prostaff is better than a VX-1. Nikon's warranty is only valid for the original owner with proof of purchase. Not quite a no questions asked lifetime warranty.
 
I only started looking into the use of scopes recently. I got a Ruger GSR & decided to use the rings that come with it & scope it. I don't get to the sporting goods store or the gun shop much these days. As I wanted to look thru them to check out the difference it was hard to find a good selection to look at. I finely was able to look at some side by side. The Nikon Pro Staff was clearer & brighter than the others I looked at. I feel that I got a great entry level scope. I will scope one or two more rifles. The Leopold was the other scope I considered. But I must say that I am very happy with the Nikon & it is a great scope for me. I believe that I would have been just as happy if I had ended up with a Leopold scope with the same features. But I have no regrets over buying the Nikon Pro Staff.
 
I have owned four Nikon scopes: two Buckmasters and two Prostaff. All have been both optically and mechanically inferior to even the cheapest Leupold own.
 
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On all of the Apollo Moon Missions there were Nikon cameras.

The warranty is for the life of the Nikon Scope regardless of the owner.

I do not recall a single Leupold product that was chosen to go on the moon missions.

Nikon products are the standard from which all other optics are measured.

Ask any professional what brand of optics are the best-they will say Nikon.

It is what it is...:)
Apples and oranges, and not even true anymore. You are talking about products from the late 60' and things have changed. I would have bought a Chevy in 1969 and been proud of it. I wouldn't even consider buying one today. Nikon still makes good camera lenses, although Canon is now just as good or better. In fact the Associated Press photo pool primarily uses Canon these days.

The photo division and the riflescope division are two entirely different things, and the riflescope people make a second class product.
 
I'm by no means a leupold expert: the only one I have is an fx2 2.5x20. That said, other than size, I have been pretty underwhelmed by it. It's fine, but I was really expecting more from a scope. From what I can see, the vx1's are optically no better than weaver classic V's or burris ff2's, and not as good as vortex diamondbacks. They're a little better than sightron s1's or the older prostaff's. Their warranty is good, but so are a lot of other companies. So unless they have something you really want that nobody else offers (small and compact scopes) I think you are overpaying for what you get. Again, not bad scopes, but I think they are not trying very hard to be a great value at the sub-$300 scope level. Above that price point I know nothing.
 
At 65 Y.O. I have had a lot of scopes in my lifetime. Also type this it is 5:16 a.m. And I am getting loaded up to deer hunt. I can afford about any scope I want. My rifle has a VX-R 4-14x40. Performance in low light is phenomenal. Week ago today I got a huge 9 point 25 minutes after sunset. Sight picture was crystal clear.

As noted above, it's difficult to compare scopes generation to generation as all mfg's products are much better now than they were ten years ago.

I have a 50mm on my pronghorn rifle and 22-250, but would not get a 50 again. As noted, the size magnifies errors and imperfections. They are bulky, harder to mount, and offer no real world advantage IMO.

I would get a good scope cheap (sale) versus getting just a cheap scope.
 
So far I have taken two deer with my Leupold VX-1 3-9x40mm. I have never complained about the picture quality looking through it. It also has held zero with all the banging around I do in the woods. I can't complain about the price either. I got it free from a friend as payment for installing a Ruger Mark III trigger kit for him. :neener:
 
Had one Nikon(firm believer in Nikon cameras) failed in under 50rds. Fought with customer service to prove there was an issue, finally got it replaced. Sold replacement for a loss as soon as it was in my grasp.
Leopold vx-1, rode it for a stretch down a mountain, shifted zero less then an inch.
Nikon was mounted on a 300wm, prior scope was a dirt cheap bushnell on it for more rounds then the Nikon lasted with no problems.
Leopold has been on the 30-06(just got the package this year) for who knows how long.
Good luck, haven't been impressed with Nikon anything other then camera's(buddy has one from the 90s that's nice, but not enough for me to get over their customer service)
 
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"Ask any professional what brand of optics are the best-they will say Nikon".

Funny, I've always heard that Leupold is the number one choice of PH's in Africa.
 
On all of the Apollo Moon Missions there were Nikon cameras.

The warranty is for the life of the Nikon Scope regardless of the owner.

I do not recall a single Leupold product that was chosen to go on the moon missions.

Nikon products are the standard from which all other optics are measured.

Ask any professional what brand of optics are the best-they will say Nikon.

It is what it is...:)
You know not of which you speak. Those stunning photos from the moon's surface were captured with modified Hasselblad 500c cameras, attached to the front of the spacesuit with Velcro. 2 ¼" format, not 35mm. IIRC, They used Zeiss-Planar lenses.
 
Well, I have been convinced. I have decided (I think) that I am going to go with a Leupold, and I am going to go UP in quality and down in objective size. One thing that I don't want to do is spend more money, but part of that will involve new rings if I get a 50mm objective.

Everything I have is 32mm, so a 40mm is going to be an upgrade anyway.
 
You will not be disappointed with the Leupold, I have them on several rifles and have used them for decades. I "jumped the fence" last month and bought a Nikon pro staff......the elevation adjustment did not work out of the box. So back to the Leupolds.
 
Nikon On Space Shuttles, Lunar Missions, Etc.

Nikon optics have been used all over the world and on Lunar Missions.


I like their scopes and their optics.


Leupold makes fine optics as well.

However, on the space shuttle missions and the lunar missions there were no

Leupold products.

The truth will set us free.:)
 
Nikon optics have been used all over the world and on Lunar Missions.


I like their scopes and their optics.


Leupold makes fine optics as well.

However, on the space shuttle missions and the lunar missions there were no

Leupold products.

The truth will set us free.:)
Are you trying to win some sort of prize for irrelevance? There were no riflescopes on space shuttle missions.
 
"The truth will set us free."

And that truth is, comparing the Nikon optics used on a space mission to the Buckmaster series of rifle-scopes is like comparing a Ford Mustang and a Ford Focus, and saying since one was a quality sports car, so is the other since they come from the same company. You do realize how utterly absurd that would be...right?
 
He certainly wins the award for trolling, which seems to be working well.
 
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