did the 1911 forum go kaput?

John Forsyth said: One thing the general membership does not see is the why and how a member is banned. 90% of the time it is because a mod emailed or PM'd a member about something they posted that was not appropriate, and got a vulgar, nasty, and challenging reply. We will ban the member and delete their posts that caused the problem.

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Sorry, John, but that's a lot of BS. I've been banned there twice, and never received a warning beforehand. I was banned because the particular moderator didn't like my views, not because I was vulgar, which I was not. You guys are super pro-Federal "Law Enforcement," and will not tolerate any criticism of same, or their tactics. In addition to being banned, when I have politely asked why a thread was closed (in the appropriate forums for such questions, mind you), I was warned that I could be banned if I didn't like their decision. This has happened on a number of occasions. Stalinesque is the right word for you guys lately. And, I've been there for a year and a half, and I know it wasn't always like that.

In fairness, though, some of the mods are great at 1911forum. Didn't mean to give the impression that they were all power mad.

While I'm not real happy with the moderation over there, I've also noticed they have a higher percentage of idiots than average. Sort of like Glocktalk.

I've never had a problem over there, but I love 1911s and don't try and tell anyone else how they should think. So that may be why my life is a big love fest

1911forum is a fine resource, but I have been puzzled, at times, by the moderation in a couple of the categories. The moderator was anything but a moderating force. It just seemed wierd, like a dog wearing shoes and a mumu. Oh, well, we all have our bad days. Maybe he was having one, too.

I must also admit to searching out the posts of banned members to see what got them whacked, 'cause I found a bunch of them in a short period of time: "Ban-O-Rama." Part rubber-necking, part trying to see where not to tread, as the written rules are only a small portion of the array of rules, conventions, etc. When I find nothing or something innocuous, I go, "Hmmmm..."

That being said, it is a pretty decent forum. Some I've visited are just plain ugly and I shall not darken their door again. Life is too short to exchange posts with frothing fanatics.

THR seems to have struck a fine balance that not too many boards succeed at doing.

You know what else the mods over there wouldn't tolerate? - disparagement of another forum, especially if it was down. "Higher percentage of idiots", eh? Nice. This thread sets a good and positive example for taking the High Road.

Ian
Member of 1911Forum

The 1911forum is a terrific forum. The quality of discourse there, is more often than not excellent. The knowledge to be found and shared there is first rate.

To their credit the mods there do not suffer fools and the membership at large to their credit is given to ignoring flamebait more often than responding to it.

I think that kind of irks some folks.

You know what else the mods over there wouldn't tolerate? - disparagement of another forum, especially if it was down. "Higher percentage of idiots", eh? Nice. This thread sets a good and positive example for taking the High Road.

Ian
Member of 1911Forum

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Any member or moderator over there is welcome to speak up over here. The opposite, however, would not be true.

Chris
Member of 1911Forum and The High Road

Back on Topic

Back on Topic: Any word when the 1911 forum will be back up?

Off Topic:

One thing the general membership does not see is the why and how a member is banned. 90% of the time it is because a mod emailed or PM'd a member about something they posted that was not appropriate, and got a vulgar, nasty, and challenging reply. We will ban the member and delete their posts that caused the problem.

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John: Things that are done in the dark tend to take on a sinister nature, even when there is none. I have in the past tried to see why a member was banned, sometimes it is crystal clear, other times I haven't a clue.

I will speak up for a couple of banned members though, one is particular was Palodin, I never figured out what he did to get banned. I disagreed with about 98% of everything he ever said politically ( Bountyhunter the same ) but I value there different 180 degree out of phase opinion, I don't necessarily agree ( probably not ) but I was exposed to differing opinions. Sometimes these topics remind me of a good southern Baptist preacher, preparing his sermon to the deacons and the choir. Ideas different than mine and the right to express them CIVILLY are important in my book, its why I served my county in the past and presently. I have found if I listen, I might not agree, but I definately learn, and can respect others point of view in that process.

All in all I think the 1911 forum is well moderated, I would not be embarresed for my daughter or my wife to visit, which is a lot more than can be said for many forums. I see no reason for the Mods to tolerate vulgar or inapproprate behavior in the general membership and no excuses are needed for taking corrective action in these instances.

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I like the 1911 forum. After the ruination on the old shooters forum and the way a few rats killed it I rather like forum moderators who keep the subject at hand.

I will speak up for a couple of banned members though, one is particular was Palodin, I never figured out what he did to get banned.

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What about the banning of the_claw. Now that was just fricken lame.

"Banned for speaking in third person"

Btw, that guy was hilarious and I enjoyed reading his take and opinions on guns. Also almost all of his posts were removed.

Sorry, John, but that's a lot of BS. I've been banned there twice, and never received a warning beforehand. I was banned because the particular moderator didn't like my views, not because I was vulgar, which I was not.

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No you were being vulgar and offensive. You posted a pic of Nazis marching with swastika flags, and compared federal law enforcement officers to the Nazis. Not only was it vulgar and offensive, it was immature. You invoked Godwin's law, got banned for it, and deserved it.

http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html

I lurk here often, don't post alot, however this topic has irked me big time.

Jason thru his 1911forums has invited the world into his house to meet and talk about guns. because it's his house, he has the RIGHT to set the rules of conduct, if you play by his rules, your welcome to stay, if you misbehave they will show you the door. to their credit they do not put up with fools , trolls, or flamers, and the forums remain civil, unlike a few other board out there.

I get the feeling that some people feel that they have the right to post anything they want, regardless of the rules (which are stickyed on every page), and the moderators warning. if you can't play by their rules, I suggest you take your toys and play elsewhere, if you what an adult, mature conversation about 1911's that should be your first stop.

member of 1911forums since oct. 2000.

Lest I be accused of beating a dead horse, let me post this.

In my opinion, based on a number of boards I frequent, the boards with the most productive and happy members are invariably the ones with effective but fair moderators.

One forum in particular is The High Road. User morale is high and very few people have complaints about how it is run. Moderators there are likable, fair, and appreciative of members and their contributions to the forum. They routinely go out of their way to help members with the most trifling of problems, yet I have never seen one even come close to griping. Threads that are off topic are simply locked or moved to the appropriate forum with no drama. The only people who are banned are those who truly step out of line. As a result, the members respect the moderators, and the moderators respect the members. This keeps the forum operating at a high level of maturity and with a minimum of fuss or drama.

However, 1911forum seems to be plagued by strife. Moderators frequently ban members for posting in the wrong section, changing the topic of a post, or even daring to question a moderator's judgement. Members of this forum can often be seen relating their poor experience with this board on other forums, where more often than not they are joined by others who have had the same experience. This forum does have a wealth of knowledge, but it is torn by both power-happy moderators and a membership that is constantly under attack. As a result, this forum is often avoided. I, myself, don't post there much simply because I don't always agree with the way it's moderated.

The bottom line is this: moderators, and their techniques, can make or break a forum. Remember that the Internet aids word of mouth, and discontented members invariably post their troubles on other boards, resulting in decreased traffic to said forums. Thus a staff that is overly injust may find itself with a clientele that is more afraid to speak than willing to contribute, and that is never a good thing for a community.

That's my two cents. Feel free to disagree with me.

Folks, we don't talk smack about other forums here.