Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Thank you very much Rad... appreciate it.

Radagast ,

Thank you for dating my 586 (dashless) to 1983. However , your news of the recall sort of makes me wish I had not asked. ....

a) .38 special
b) 2 inch
c) grips square
d) 6 shots
e) Fixed sights
f) serial number, C 127xxx
g) Model number under crane says 36667

It has 5 screws , 4 to remove cover 1 in front of trigger
Stainless steel

What would be the price for this gun? The grips are not original.
A cousin wants me to make him an offer but i have no idea of its value

Arizpe: Your .38 Military & Police Post War was manufactured between 1948 & 1951. Serial range for those years was C1 to C223998. My guesstimate is 1950, as the C prefix serial numbers didn't start until midway through 1948.
Model numbers were not introduced until 1957, so your gun can also be described as the pre-Model 10. The number stamped in the cylinder yoke cut is an assembly number, used to track parts in the factory.

Just to add, Stainless steel guns did not exist at that time, the finish is probably nickel. A beat up police trade in Model 10 will sell for $330 at the moment. If the nickel finish is not damaged in any way and is original (hammer and trigger are not nickeled) then I'm guessing around $500 due to the rarity of the barrel length, finish and the fact it is a 5 screw pre-model number gun.
As I am Australian, my knowledge of US prices is limited. I suggest you start a new thread and pose the question, preferably with some pics to allow assessing the condition.
There is a 'how to check out a revolver' sticky. I suggest you use it before buying.

Thank you! I really appreciate it. I was having a really hard time trying to identify the revolver.

Hey Raster, I got one I can't figure out. I got 4 pics, the barrel is 3-3/8", the cylinder is 1-7/16"the last 3 of 6 are 243. To break, half moon front sight, v rear. It's all crome, & the handles are that hard plastic. The top strap lists 1965 as the original copyright date, but it was also released in 1971. If I knew how to upload pics on this site I would, but I don't see where I can do it.

That certainly doesn't sound like a S&W.

S&W never put 'copyright dates' on top straps.

They did put Patent dates on the barrel many many years ago.

Also.
1. The last three of the serial number is meaningless for dating.
(It's the first three that allows dating.)

2. With the info you provided, but especially the copyright dates on the frame of 1965 & 1971?

You do not have a S&W, and without photo's, I have no idea what you have.


BTW: His name is Ragagast, NOT Hey Raster!!

Radagast lives in Australia.
And who among us in the USA knows what calling someone a Raster means down under!!

rc

Max Headroom was a Raster. I'm a wizard that loves pipe weed, shrooms and has an obsession with rabbits.

3&1/4 inch barrel, top break, nickel, vulcanized rubber grips, Patent dates 1865 & 1871 sure sounds like an early top break.
I need to know:
Is it a 5 or six shot gun.
Does it have a trigger guard or a spur trigger?
Is it a single action (cock hammer with thumb to fire) or double action (pulling trigger cocks hammer)

How old is my S&W 34-1, "J" frame, 4" barrel, 6 shot cylinder, square butt, s/n M73993.

Thanks

dougschwartz:
Your Model 34-1 / Model of 1953 .22/.32 Kit Gun was manufactured during 1973-77. Srial range for those years was M60001 to M99999. Assuming a fairly constant rate of production, 1974 seems likely.

JesusismyPapa said:

Hey Raster, I got one I can't figure out. I got 4 pics, the barrel is 3-3/8", the cylinder is 1-7/16"the last 3 of 6 are 243. To break, half moon front sight, v rear. It's all crome, & the handles are that hard plastic. The top strap lists 1965 as the original copyright date, but it was also released in 1971. If I knew how to upload pics on this site I would, but I don't see where I can do it.

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Sorry bout the misspelling of "Radster". I blame it on autocorrect. Also I confused copyright w/ patenting, but w/ that aside, the dates of the "patents" are 1965- 1971. It is a 5 shot, & the S/W logo is clearly displayed on the grips. A .38 cartridge fits, but It's too long. First 3 are 197xxx & I pretty sure it's double action.

I finally figured out how to post these pics, but there seems to be some security issue......?

A top break, exposed hammer, double action .38 S&W with a serial number 197xxx would be a .38 Double Action 3rd Model manufactured between 1884 (serial number 119001) & 1892 (serial number 264116).
Hard rubber grips with S&W logo. 3.25 inch barrel. Pinned half moon front sight, rear sight is a raised notch in the barrel catch. Side plate on left side of frame, held on by one screw. Recurve trigger guard - the rear of the trigger guard curves toward the trigger. .38 S&W is shorter than .38 special, which explains the cartridge not fitting.
If it has an internal hammer then its a .38 Safety Hammerless 4th Model from 1907.
My guess is the patent dates are worn.

a) .38 Special
b) 2 inch
c) round
d) 6
e) fixed ramped
f) xxxxxx
g) 10-5

mesinge2:
That Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel was manufactured in 1970.

Radagast said:

mesinge2:
That Model 10-5 .38 Military & Police tapered barrel was manufactured in 1970.

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Thanks again. I was so happy to find one in this condition.

Can someone tell me the mfg year for a 38spl model 64-5, ( K frame I assume ),
4" barrel, fixed sight, 6 shot, s/n BDE58xx ?

TIA

CZDave:
That Model 64-5 .38 Military & Police Stainless was manufactured in 1989. It is a K frame.

Radagast Recognition Reprised Reguardless of Remise Reguesters !

Thank you Radagast !

THR salutes you for your contributions !

Thank you Rad. I would not have guessed it was that old given the condition. Guess I was lucky to find it.

CZDave. 1989 isn't old! I was 19 back then and I'm not... well... umph... an OLD S&W is made prior to 1970. I thought everyone knew that....I think I'll stop digging now.

thank you i bought my first mod 10-6 in 1979 used and i consider it a new gun next to dads victory model. dont let the grey fool ya i draw as fast and shoot as straight as i ever did bahaha

Perhaps everyone did. And now I do to
And I agree completely about 89 not being old. I was twenty sumthin around that time.

My surprise was more at the amount of time that weapon; and many like it, remained in service at a particular company before being retired. But then again I am not familiar with how those things typically work. At any rate; I think I ended up with a well kept, inexpensive shooter.

I am looking at a:

S&W model 14-3
.38 cal
6" barrel
serial # is 8K8097
has the smaller S&W grips (magna, I think)
does not have the target hammer or trigger

Thanks in advance for the year info