The joy of watching your child shoot well.

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Several years ago I acquired a spare stainless Model 70 CRF Winchester action and decided to build a rifle for my youngest daughter. After mulling over the caliber choices which would give me excellent performance on critters up to and including elk and which had the easiest recoil possible, I decided that my best bet was going to be something in the 6.5 MM arena.

After much study and long conversations with my friend and gunsmith we decided on the same caliber that he cut his teeth on, the 6.5-06. We built it with a teenage girl in mind. It should be slightly heavy for caliber for recoil purposes but not so heavy that it is a burden to carry all day. The stock must fit her and it should be equipped with a nice soft recoil pad. We barreled it in a medium tapper 26" Pac-Nor with an 8.5" twist. The stock we decided on is an Echols Legend. If you can get a hold of one of these they are the most well built, ergonomic stocks produced today IMO. They have built in cast off and are a pleasure to shoot.

The rifle was barreled and stocked in the course of a month when it arrived it fit her perfectly. It is weighs in at about 7,5lbs before we mounted a Zeiss HD-5 2x10 scope with a rapid z 600 reticle on it. I decided on a 140gr Nosler Accubond/Ballistic Tip and was easily able to achieve 2870FPS with this bullet. The Ziess ballistics program showed me that for our velocity/BC we needed to set the scope to 9 power to match the range markings on the reticle. That was perfect dope BTW.

The rifle is a dream to shoot with almost zero felt recoil, it gives 1/2 MOA accuracy with boring regularity. Her first trip to the range she shot a 5 shot group into a slightly larger than caliber ragged hole at 100 yards then proceeded to swat steel at 300, 400, and 600 yards.

She killed her antelope buck with her new 6.5-06 two years ago with a single bullet at 328 yards. Last year she killed her buck at a pedestrian 90 yards. After hunting season last year she put the rifle away and hasn't shot it until last week. After school we headed out to the range and she warmed up with a nice 1/2" 3 shot group at 100 yards then placed two shots within about 2" of each other at 500 yards on a steel plate.

I'm sold on the 6.5-06. It has low recoil, it offers excellent ballistics with a fantastic bullet selection and it punches way above it's weight class on game. It is the perfect caliber for the recoil sensitive shooter when big game hunting is the goal. My daughter has total confidence in this rifle and has zero apprehension about shooting it. She just picks it up and swats stuff without ever thinking about recoil, and where she puts the cross hair the bullet goes, no two ways about it. Confidence is the key for a new shooter and this combination hit that mark with flying colors.
 
Awesome story, H&H. Too bad not all of us have your money. Over $500 for the stock alone, Zeiss optics, and a caliber that you have to reload to get.
 
Awesome story, H&H. Too bad not all of us have your money. Over $500 for the stock alone, Zeiss optics, and a caliber that you have to reload to get.

Thanks Warden,

And don't you worry the Mrs. and I work plenty hard to earn that money......

PS

Take a look at the Ziess HD 5 series they are in between what you pay for a Leupold VX III and a VX 6. I reload for everything we shoot so it's simply not even the slightest issue. You buy 25-06 brass run it through your 6.5-06 sizer and like magic you have a 6.5-06 case. I can guarantee you that it cost me less to reload 20, 6.5-06 than it does to buy a box of .30-06 at Wally World.
 
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I'm sold on the 6.5-06. It has low recoil, it offers excellent ballistics with a fantastic bullet selection and it punches way above it's weight class on game.

Buddy of mine who spent a lot of time smacking critters came to the same conclusion. :)

Warden, best value always beats cheap, even if you have to stretch a bit to get it.
 
H&Hhunter

Great story and one sweet shooting rifle. Would love to see some photos of this custom built rifle if you get a chance. Thanks for sharing.
 
Just got trounced at out last Desert Shotapalooza!

The kid was ringing waaaay more iron than I was; pistol, revolver, carbine or rifle - so that's one thing.

What really stood out was that while he was hitting about the same number of clays as I was "hitting" - he was decidedly dusting significantly more regardless of who threw or what shotgun/gauge he was picking up. Absolutely reducing them to clouds in the air.

Many of mine woulda had the bird shucking it off and sleeping poorly for a while - his were death!

When the hell did that happen?


Todd.
 
H&Hhunter

Great story and one sweet shooting rifle. Would love to see some photos of this custom built rifle if you get a chance. Thanks for sharing.
Oh and I forgot to mention that it has a custom flat black with quasi digital pink and lavender paint job.

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H&Hunter,

What a great time with your daughter! That's money well spent, and you have no apologies for how you spend your money. Your daughter I'm sure will cherish that rifle and pass it along to her kids. She's proud as punch in the photo, and that rifle has significant more meaning being thought out and put together by her parents with her in mind than any off-the-shelf rifle would!

Good for you for sharing your passions with the next generation and taking the time to do so!
 
Good information here! My daughter will be graduating to centerfire in a year or two. We are also in Colorado so there is elk on the menu. Budget is tight so I am leaning towards a Ruger American 6.5 Creedmore with a youth stock. Scope will likely be my older VX-III 2.5-8X36, and shots will be under 200y until she gets more comfortable.

The 140g Accubond is what I plan to load for it if it shoots OK.

Currently we are perfecting skills with a Savage Rascal with its peep sight. She is having great fun punching my "bad guy" target from field positions.
 
Good information here! My daughter will be graduating to centerfire in a year or two. We are also in Colorado so there is elk on the menu. Budget is tight so I am leaning towards a Ruger American 6.5 Creedmore with a youth stock. Scope will likely be my older VX-III 2.5-8X36, and shots will be under 200y until she gets more comfortable.

The 140g Accubond is what I plan to load for it if it shoots OK.

Currently we are perfecting skills with a Savage Rascal with its peep sight. She is having great fun punching my "bad guy" target from field positions.
I really do think that the various 6.5's, Rem, Creedmore, 6.5x55, 6.5x284,6.5-06, ETC are the ultimate light recoiling big game calibers. They recoil about like the 25-06/.243 but carry down range much better.
 
Enjoying kids and grandkids

It took me a little while to interest my son in shooting, but when he started I felt really proud of him. After shooting his 22 rifles for a while we took him to my mother-in-law's house in the country and we had a dedicated shooting day. He was always very good with the iron sights on his 22's. My father-in-law brought out his Winchester 270 pump action and offered it to my son. He had never used a scope before, but he hit a 1MOA on his first outing with it at 100yds. I was really impressed and quite a bit proud.
Later that same year we bought our then 4 year old grandson a Cricket 22 youth rifle. He noticed my scoped 30-06 and said he anted an aimer. I laughed and later put a cheap Bushnel 3-9x40mm scope on his Cricket. The first time he shot it after that, we had bought a bunch of pumpkins after Halloween to use for targets. Only one had a stem and we had them set up about 30 to 40 yards out. He took his Cricket after just basic instruction on using the scope, and he systematically took off the stem by himself. They both seem to take after my Dad who was an excellent shot. I am really impressed with both of them.
 
One day I will have a 6.5-06 I just haven't gotten around to it but as a reloader and owner of a 6.5x55 as I know how well the 6.5's work
 
my 16 yo shot her first surplus rifle match last weekend.

For her in this match I selected my 1909 Carl Gustav Swede.

Anyone want to take a guess why?

Congratz on your daughter, she looks really happy
 
2 Daughters that grew up shooting NRA Bullseye and IPSC. Grand Daughter (23) learned to shoot at 8 or 10 years old. 17 year old grand son shoots small bore with me. He's pretty good at it too. Youngest grandson (12) has fired a few shots. But in my eyes he hasn't matured enough yet. 2 great grand sons, both are less than 3 years old. But they'll get there one day.
 
that is awesome H&H!

and yeah, 6.5mm 140 running 2700-3000 is a joy to shoot compared to say, a 308win and fantastic compared to the 30-06 and magnum stuff

a well fit stock makes it all the more pleasant
 
Never saw the big deal between a 6.5 06 and a 270. Is a 13 thousands bullet diameter change all that significant?
 
Interesting about the stock. Dealing with a warped stock on a 300 Win Mag led me to delve into the attributes of cast-on and-off. Was told by a stockmaker that though a rifle with cast-on may be harder to "get behind" it is better in the recoil department, due to the fact that the recoil impulse along the axis of the bore tends to pull the stock away from the cheek, lessening the perception of recoil. A stock with cast-on can cause some of the recoil be felt in the shooter's cheek. Makes sense if you think about it.

This was the warped presentation on the 300, and true to the above, it did not seem to have a lot of perceived recoil. I am in the process of inletting and bedding the action to a new stock, without a cheekpad and a more conventional slight cast off presentation. Interesting to see what the recoil will be like with this stock as compared to the old one.
 
Never saw the big deal between a 6.5 06 and a 270. Is a 13 thousands bullet diameter change all that significant?
Jim, there is not enough difference to put yourself through the hassle of building a custom 6.5-06. Unless you are dedicate rifle loony looking for something special for your kid.;)
 
Good stuff, H&H.

I have 6 kids; 3 boys and 3 girls. They all grew up learning how to shoot but we mostly played around with pistols and iron sight plinking caliber rifles (22, 7.62x39, 5.56, 7.62x51R and 9mm and 45ACP carbines).

Although the shooting was of a different style we still had many good times and they all became proficient shooters and comfortable handling firearms. All of my kids are now in their late teens or 20s. My girls only go to the range now to make their old man happy. The boys still like to shoot but other than 1 of them not as much as I do.

My oldest boy is in the Ranger Regiment and is the best shooter in his platoon, makes me proud.
 
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