Palmetto State Armory

I agree with Jackal, based on the material specs, the PSA is a better rifle. Better barrel, better twist, true melonite, mil-spec bolt and carrier, and it has the polished trigger group.

For $470!

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Most of the time it comes down to QC as much as material specs. What about those components leads you to believe the QC will be better and that it the same gas ring issue will not occur with a PSA.

Again good luck but to me the logic seems flawed.

I ordered this 7.62X39 Upper. Woohoo!

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Linky no worky, but if it's like the one I got recently, you will enjoy it, I think.

I have that upper

and I love it. it will eat any russian ammo. Now Tula is just plain nasty and terrible ammo. But oh will, it loves WPA.



steve

PSA doesn't seem to have any trouble selling them.

Any critical parts can easily be replaced or upgraded to better quality if you choose.

Enjoy it

M

I have one PSA rifle, with a spec sheet identical to a Colt 6920.

I also have a Colt 6920. If you took the labels off of them, I wouldn't be able to tell a difference. I don't pound on them hard in terms of round count; maybe if I did, some difference would show up; I don't know. But it seems like a very good rifle to me.

I have tried to find this rifle on the PSA website a few times since, and it does not appear to be there.

They also seem to have a lot of "budget" materials that go into a lot of their rifles, especially the super low price point ones. What you get is very much variable from day to day and build to build. As long as you know what specs matter to you and why, hopefully you are getting a good deal.

So I think you can do well buying parts from them as long as you know exactly what you are getting, but be aware they put a lot of non milspec stuff into some of their lower end builds, I assume to get the price down.

The key components as far as I'm concerned is everything that is inline with the bore: Buffer tube, BCG, barrel. You can go cheap on everything else and still have a good reliable rifle.

While PSA has a great reputation I have had trouble with a parts kit and a bolt carrier group from them. Both out of spec. I hope you have better luck than I did. To be fair they are offering to fix or replace the bolt and I made the parts work ok.
IMHO, QC on many of the low price guns is more up to the customer than the seller. Obviously the parts were not tested before shipping. I also have had problems on occasion from major brand names that required returns for repair. Sometimes things slip through with all of them.

d2wing said:

While PSA has a great reputation I have had trouble with a parts kit and a bolt carrier group from them. Both out of spec. I hope you have better luck than I did. To be fair they are offering to fix or replace the bolt and I made the parts work ok.
IMHO, QC on many of the low price guns is more up to the customer than the seller. Obviously the parts were not tested before shipping. I also have had problems on occasion from major brand names that required returns for repair. Sometimes things slip through with all of them.

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I guess that is what I was saying. Just because the spec looks better there is no guarnteee that the rifle will be better. PSA sells a lot of stuff and most of it runs just fine but their builds always seem to be the flavor of the month. The suppliers are not always the same and their offering change constantly based on what they can get. It is hard to keep track of exactly what you are buying. IMHO

I thought CO banned high caps...

What do you do, buy 10 rd mags?

I had to jump on the bandwagon and buy another complete PSA 5.56 11 1/2" SBR upper. Hard to beat $299

ColoradoShooter77 said:

I didn't buy bargain basement stuff

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Well, the thing is that

ColoradoShooter77 said:

They're having a Memorial Day Sale and I just built a complete AR-15 for $443 shipped......that's awesome!

PSA Blem Lower with enhanced trigger = $150
Melonite Freedom Upper 1:7 twist = $189
M-16 Bolt Carrier with Charging Handle = $104

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A freedom part from PSA is quite literally the definition of bargain basement. PSA is PSA to begin with, and then they cycle through even more inconsistent cost cutting unknown brands like PTAC and Freedom

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I'm suspecting the gas block let go, because it will not chamber a round after the first round is fired and ejected.

Its going bye-bye anyway, the PSA is just as good, if not better for $200 less money.

Its a 1:7 twist, versus a 1:9 twist.....which means I can shoot 75 and 77 grain bullets.

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It seems pretty weird to proclaim a rifle you haven't even received the parts for yet, that is bargain basement, as superior to a S&W because the S&W had a failure after 2,000 rounds

Even if you just look at the very small sample size that is your two rifles, the very least you need to do is put 2,000 rounds through the Freedom rifle before comparing them.

Interesting video!

I have a PayPal freedom upper 16" stainless barrel. I put it on an Anderson lower I built. It shoots better than I can. I have about 2500 rounds through it with zero issues. I would buy another tomorrow. Good stuff as far as I can say.

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scallop said:

I have a PayPal freedom upper 16" stainless barrel. I put it on an Anderson lower I built. It shoots better than I can. I have about 2500 rounds through it with zero issues. I would buy another tomorrow. Good stuff as far as I can say.

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PSA not pay pal. Stupid autocorrect.

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Well, thanks for getting me all worked up now and making me go buy another.

M

They (PSA) had the same complete Magpul MOE blem lower I bought a couple of years ago on sale again yesterday. I had to fight the urge to buy another one. The first one, also a blem, was pretty much perfect. I couldn't find a thing wrong with it anywhere. I bought a Beretta 92FS from some place about 10 years ago, marked as a "blem" too, but like the PSA lower, I couldn't see a mark on it.