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I have a very good load for 55gr hornady v max bullets in my 223 but I want to load sp and fmj bullets now.

do I need to start over by switching to 55gr fmj-bt and 55gr sp or just load em up at 24gr which v max likes and good to go?
 
I'd load them the same (No deeper) and see how they do. Tweak from there.
 
"Normally" good reloading practices say any time a component is changed to drop powder charge and do a work-up again. But, I'd try the same load with a same weight bullet...
 
Hornady #9 shows five different bullets listed under the 55 grains groups of bullets ... they all use the same charges across the board .... including the Vmax ..... so Yes I just change out the bullet and keep going ... so far no problems .... I don't expect any either ...
 
Different bullets will have different oal to the ogive..... I use the stony point or now Hornady tool (oal gauge) to measure for oal to the lands (where bullets ogive contact the lands) which gives you in my view the best way to measure the bullet jump to the lands…. I use this in conjunction with a precision mic for head space…. This has worked very well for me for improving group size….
 
I would start with the same jump distance.... and then increase or decrease .005 from there and see what the groups are doing. As well as start at lower end of powder and work up..... enjoy
 
I don't have any of the fancy OAL gauges so I just color the bullet and seat until I can chamber it fine. never had an issue with the 500 v max rounds I've made and shot so I will just seat to what fits the gun. I might back it off just a hair in the charge and work up. days are getting shorter so I don't have a heck of a lot of time to start from min-max workups as I have 2-223 rifles I load for.
 
I would contemplate this first.....vmaxs are a bit longer than the sp.....do you wish to keep case pressures the same? If not and you're only concerned about oal in relation to lands, then you're fine. My 50 spsx is real short for a 50gr. (.595) I'm loading them at 2.155 oal. Keeping a nosler standard .2" of bullet in the case. If I swapped to a longer bullet, the length would likely increase as well. I'm working at case pressures more than distance to lands with 50gr anyway. Just a thought.........should amend to include that it's the standard for bullets of similar length.
 
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you can make a "bubba" gauge, by simply resizing a fired case, then sloting the neck. The tension will hold a bullet enought that you can push it against the lands....If your feeling suuuuuper, industrious drill out the primer pocket and thread to 8/32 then use your cleaning rod as a handle to push the case....i usually just drop it in the chamber and close the bolt.

Unless im changing projectiles with a major diffrence in shape, like round nose flat base to vld boat tail, ill usually use the same powder charge. I WILL re-work the coal so im not jamming bullets into the lands. I always check the first shot carefully for signs of pressure, but so far i havent had an issue with this practice.
 
You load for the weight, not the type of bullet. You may need to tweak the load for 'em though. There's absolutely no safety issue one way or the other though.
 
Type?

As long as they are lead core jacketed like the V-Max and load to a reasonable OAL you are OK. You can't change to a lead free 55 Gr bullet and just substitute it. So it depends on what you mean by type. :)
 
I would contemplate this first.....vmaxs are a bit longer than the sp.....do you wish to keep case pressures the same? If not and you're only concerned about oal in relation to lands, then you're fine. My 50 spsx is real short for a 50gr. (.595) I'm loading them at 2.155 oal. Keeping a nosler standard .2" of bullet in the case. If I swapped to a longer bullet, the length would likely increase as well. I'm working at case pressures more than distance to lands with 50gr anyway. Just a thought.........should amend to include that it's the standard for bullets of similar length.
I load my v max at 2.230 anything past that I'm hitting rifling and the others are shorter. Its going to 75 degrees tomorrow so instead of hunting all day I'm going to load some mid range charge and see.
 
I'd go by weight, but there are subtle differences with the thicker jacket of the FMJ's and they may not conform to the barrel as well at the same pressure. Your V Maxes are hard to beat for accuracy IMO, especially in smaller groups.
 
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