Pro 2A pres?

In an interview with in American Rifleman he made no indication about trying to enact any sort of gun control. So I think this is just going to have to shake itself out.

i think gun owners are going to be fine.

He will have to be kept in line, and his mentality will be that of a northeast moderate but I doubt he will be as anti gun as the Bushes, or Reagan.

Just remember, he is but one person. Any true change will have to go through the representatives, as well. We must continue to keep Pro-2A members in ALL offices.

One thing that is going to be even more important, at least in the near to mid-term, is our local representation. We need to do more on a local level as it seems this is where more and more staunchly anti-gun legislation is being passed. In the short term, a President Trump and even 2A supporting supreme court justices will do little to repeal local magazine limit restrictions etc. Down the road, I can see some of these cases being taken to the supreme court with positive results but it sure seems to be far more productive to nip them in the bud at the local level.

This really is where we have the loudest voice.

If he holds true to his list of potential Supreme Court nominations I think we will be OK. Its the most important thing in the long term, as the left has taken over much of the Judicial System to get by fiat ruling what they can't get at the ballot box. Got to keep vigilant and keep up the fight locally. Bodes well that Bloomberg lost in Maine.

Already getting "ammo on sale" Emails this morning!

I hope you know that Trump has had a Carry permit as long as I did in NYC. He has carried since the 70's, I know he had a Rorenbach when they first came out, at the time I was still there, I assume he still carries, up until the Secret Service will probably ask him politely to stop carrying. I don't think they want a President drawing down on an assasin when it's their job to protect him. But he did have a 9mm.
So he walks the walk also. He is not likely to turn on his beliefs, and once you have carried for many years it's much easier to understand the whole philosopy, rather than trying to imagine it.

"So he walks the walk also. He is not likely to turn on his beliefs, and once you have carried for many years it's much easier to understand the whole philosopy, rather than trying to imagine it."

He might some but I don't think he is a huge gun enthusiast who walks the walk a lot. However, what makes me more confident is his son who is supposedly a very big hunter and I think competitive shooter and Trump respects and values his kids ideas. Besides that he also has trumpeted his early NRA endorsement so much I think he realizes how devastating it would be to betray the 2nd amendment crowd.

There is no need to worry at all. As rabidly anti-gun as Obama is, he was basically not able to get anything accomplished in 8 years. A couple annoying EOs, a few half-hearted ATF regulation shenaigans. This was despite their best try after Sandyhook...still nada, not even UBC.

Trump is not going to spend a single cent of political capital on any anti-gun measure even if he wanted to, and I don't think he wants to at all. He may (I hope) spend some political capital getting some pro-gun things through, he has formed a 2A coalition headed by his son with Chris Cox on board. I can definitely see national CCW reciprocity, carry by military on bases and reversing the Obama EOs for starters. National reciprocity and military carry will be sold as the increased anti-terrorism/mass shooting security measure that it is, garnering more popular support vs. a pure pro 2A vs. anti-gun type bill.

george burns said:

I hope you know that Trump has had a Carry permit as long as I did in NYC. He has carried since the 70's, I know he had a Rorenbach when they first came out, at the time I was still there, I assume he still carries, up until the Secret Service will probably ask him politely to stop carrying. I don't think they want a President drawing down on an assasin when it's their job to protect him. But he did have a 9mm.
So he walks the walk also. He is not likely to turn on his beliefs, and once you have carried for many years it's much easier to understand the whole philosopy, rather than trying to imagine it.

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Diane Feintstein carried concealed as well. She claims to have given up her permit, saying “I know from first-hand experience what damage ... weapons can do to bodies,” she explained at Wednesday’s event. “I have a deep belief that these weapons are antithetical to our values.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/dianne-feinstein-guns_n_3010058.html

Presumably she is still fine with a cop or security guard carrying and using a gun on her behalf, so long as she doesn't have to pull the trigger herself.

So I'd say Trump having a permit proves nothing either way. We'll see, I guess.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/dianne-feinstein-guns_n_3010058.html

Trump should let his two sons who are active in shooting sports/NRA to work with pro 2A legislations/generate national support.

I am sure NRA/ILA will make certain two sons have excellent help.

Trump seems to like people that were (are) loyal to him. God knows, we certainly
backed him to the hilt. I think that will do it and he will take care of us as best as
he can. After all, he is a politician now.
Zeke

It didn't take long, according to CNN he is already back peddaling on some major promises.

In an interview with in American Rifleman he made no indication about trying to enact any sort of gun control.

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Trump has proposed banning sales (and likely possession) of guns to people he suspects of being terrorists, no trials. He's probably not anti-gun anymore, but I do not think he understands the issue well enough to avoid unintended freindly fire (think about how many Democrats were hurt by bright ideas from their own party)

TCB

dirtman said:

It didn't take long, according to CNN he is already back pedaling on some major promises.

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"According to CNN" rings no bells for me!

Trump seems to like people that were (are) loyal to him.

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That's a mark of a great military commander or dictator, but a bad politician, btw. Their job is good governance as opposed to domination, and competence matters a whole lot more than loyalty (Bush II is an example of placing loyalty above all to a destructive degree). I don't care if Trump's people stick with him through bad decisions or poor policy, that doesn't help me; I want them sticking to a defined set of policy goals promised to us all in exchange for support.

Cnn is a radical misinformation network, nothing they say can be taken seriously. Trump will show us in the first 100 days what his intentions are. He may not speak to everything he is planning on doing, as he had a problem with the administrations policy of telling everyone what they were going to do before they did it.
Don't be suprised if he does what he said he would do. He just isn't going to put it out there for critisizem prior to doing it.

Trump supports nationwide concealed carry permit and wants to eliminate gun and magazine bans, labeling them a "total failure" - https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/11/11/trump-to-support-nationwide-concealed-carry/

Well, consider if the alternative was elected. Where would our gun rights be?

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It didn't take long, according to CNN he is already back peddaling on some major promises.

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And you believe anything CNN has to say? After what they tried to do. Those provisions that President Trump supposedly back peddled on which, of course, CNN failed to mention, were already included in the Republican bill that was vetoed by Obama.

He isn't back peddling and he doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate.

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It didn't take long, according to CNN he is already back peddling on some major promises.

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I think Trump has now realized that the office of the president is an office of nuance and one can`t use a blunt object to effect change.
It is fix what you can and leave the rest to the next guy. It is many shades of grey instead of the black and white the politicians what us to see.

Hasn't just about every president had to back peddle on some issue or other that was promised? It`s the nature of the beast !

^^^^^^^Exactly^^^^^^^

There is a reason we have seen such little progress and gridlock has become the status quo and it's the mentality that compromise is noble and political correctness trumps plain honest discourse.
I probably won't agree with all Trump does but so long as he adheres to the Constitution and I believe his administration will swing that court in a very positive direction to enforce that.

I'm much more interested in accomplishing something that will drive generational change than I am minor tweaks to the gun law landscape.

Two huge things that the POTUS-elect should do as soon as possible:

1) Nominate a young justice to the SCOTUS who espouses originalist views regarding state's rights and an expansive view of the scope of the second amendment. Ensure that Mitch McConnell and the rest of the Senate figures out how to get this choice confirmed and seated on the court. Over time, such an appointment will help establish a strong body of case law that would require a generation of liberal interference to overcome.

2) Instruct the Justice Department and all US Attorneys around the country to reverse the trend of decreasing prosecution of gun crimes such as felons in possession of firearms, felons who attempt to purchase firearms, felons who encourage others to make straw purchases of firearms for them, etc. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/31/obama-gun-control-push-undercut-by-fall-in-prosecu/ and http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/23/despite-rhetoric-gun-prosecutions-plummet-under-ob/). Make sure that US Attorneys in violent cities prosecute these crimes at the highest rates in the country, instead of the lowest rates (see http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...new-york-prosecuted-fewest-federal-gun-crimes)

These crimes are often plea-bargained down currently. Prosecuting more of these crimes would put more violent felons in federal prisons serving longer sentences, where they belong. Locking up more violent felons for longer will further reduce the crime rate, taking the wind out of liberal arguments that their version of gun control (disarming law-abiding citizens) is necessary to reduce violence in our cities. Long term, further reductions in felons possessing and using firearms illegally will benefit every citizen of this country, whether conservative, liberal, or in-between.

After Trump accomplishes these big things, then, I believe, we should start to jump on him for the myriad other items on our pro-freedom, pro-self-defense agendas.