Taurus 66 vs Smith K frame

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I remember as a youngster in the mid 1980s reading all the gun magazines I could find. I thought revolvers didn't look cool unless they had a big underlug. Now the undrrlug just does not appeal to me at all.
 
Good points all. I should have mentioned that I'd also like to have a revolver that could possibly do double duty as home defense and ccw should I decide to carry in the future.

I have minimalist tendencies and not enough time to shoot so I was thinking a K frame 38 would suit. I'm not overly found of snubs with my little experience with them I think the size is a liability for me.
Well it looks like I have more thinking and reading to do! Thanks
So home defense, CCW, and hunting capabilities? And I see you prefer fixed sights also. In one gun?

It's very difficult to get one gun to fill all of these roles. I believe the closest you will come is bannockburn's suggestion, a 4" 686 Smith. However, if it were me I would probably pick up a 3" 686+ 7 shot for home defense and CCW, and then a 4 or 5" 629 in 44 mag later on if I want to hunt.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.
 
So home defense, CCW, and hunting capabilities? And I see you prefer fixed sights also. In one gun?

It's very difficult to get one gun to fill all of these roles. I believe the closest you will come is bannockburn's suggestion, a 4" 686 Smith. However, if it were me I would probably pick up a 3" 686+ 7 shot for home defense and CCW, and then a 4 or 5" 629 in 44 mag later on if I want to hunt.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.

Thanks for your reply. I will probably drop the hunting requirement.
 
How about they aren't needed for home defense and they go for a premium over the 64s? Much easier to find police surplus 64s in my experience, and at a lower price. Adjustable sights on these kinds of revolvers are overrated and lack the same durability.
I prefer fixed sights as well for the same reasons. And it's pretty rare you can not find a decent defense load that will shoot reasonably close to point of aim; at the common encounter distances, it almost doesn't matter anyway. You may even luck out and find one that shoots close enough for hunting.
 
Back in the mid 1980'when I worked for one of those gun magazines I did a side by side look at the then new Taurus 66 six shot and the Model 19 that rode to work with me in my briefcase every day.

Basically I thought the price difference at that time made the 66 a good for a first time buyer that might just want a gun for General Purposes but was not yet a full blown gun geek, but was not going to trade my M19 for one. They seemed pretty even on the range.

There was an issue with the test 66....there were flakes of the plating floating around in the grease that came in the action. Breaking the 66 down and stripping all the factory lube of the parts and frame and replacing it with Rig made everything fine.

-kBob
 
Hi everyone

I have a stainless 6" Taurus 66 (7 shot). It's a nice enough revolver but slightly hefty. Its chief duty is home defense loaded with 5 38s and 2 357s. It sees little use as I work out of the country most of the year. I guess there is a small chance I would use it to hunt deer (In VA forest) once I move back here for good. But I have an 870 that would probably be more useful to me for that.

I'm thinking of replacing it with a K frame 38 partly because I find them sleeker and they just look right to me. I don't really fire many magnums.

I'm sure there are some things I'm not taking into consideration so I hope you fine folks can help guide me along.

A model 10 or 64 seems like a good choice? What do you think? Thanks!

Don't replace it, just buy another one and then you'll have two.
 
When the Taurus' first came to Canada, 35 + years ago, every one of 'em had tool marks. Now, Taurus has a reputation for really poor customer service. Wouldn't touch one for that reason alone. Even if 'K' frames did fit my hand. A GP fits like a glove.
"...but slightly hefty..." The extra round will do that. So does the full lug. It weighs a bit less than 2 ounces more than the Smith M66 4", 38 ounces. A 686 4" weighs 1.7 ounces more. A Model 10 has no sights and weighs 4 ounces less at 34.4 oz. A Model 64 is just a SS Model 10 at 35.6 oz. They're all pretty much the same. No sights is not a good thing though.
 
The S&W 66 is a good choice. So is a stainless Ruger Security-Six. Both guns are about the same size and weight. The 66 has a better action and it's just come back into production (if you can find one). Used 66s are out there, but the older ones won't take sustained magnum rounds with light, 110-140gr JHPs. If you shoot 158gr JHPs, you'll be okay. The Ruger Security-Six can be found used, and you can fire anything in them. But I'd get the new Combat Masterpiece if price wasn't a consideration.

Ruger, S&W and Taurus are putting too much steel into their guns. They've turned them into boat anchors and they don't care what consumers think. I say this as a huge fan of the S&W 686, but the lack of choice irritates me. The .357 caliber is one of the greatest revolver rounds ever developed, but all the manufacturers are putting the damn underlugs on the barrel and adding steel everywhere they can stuff it until they can add no more. They ought to remove it until they can remove no more. I remember when the Security-Six (Heavy Barrel) was introduced. That was okay, but the GP-100 is ridiculous. Why don't they develop a barrel where one can add weights if they feel the need? Or do as Dan Wesson did and let people change barrels (which would be a good idea anyway)?

I'd just like to see .357s with less steel. We've got the technology, and no one really complained about the recoil of the Security-Six.

I'm the other way. I'm currently lusting for an S&W 28. I already have 3 other .357 guns, a DW 15-2, a DW 715, and a SAR SR 38. All are pretty beefy, the DW's have 4 and 6" full lug barrel shrouds. If S&W made a 28 with a full lug barrel, I would be looking for one now.
 
Have you made your choice yet?

If not, the more I think about your situation, the more I think you should keep your 6" Taurus 66 and buy a 2nd gun for CCW. Since hunting is one of your planned uses, a 6" .357mag would be a good field gun. Finding one gun that is good for both hunting and carry may have too many compromises (too short a barrel to get the most out of the cartridge, too long a barrel for easy concealment). If money is tight, you can get a Taurus 85 (one of their best) for around $200 right now. While a 5 shot small framed snub isn't my first choice, you can do worse, and millions of people have relied on them for decades. The Taurus 85 is cheap right now so you could use that until you saved enough for a 3" K-frame or L-frame for a more capable carry gun. If you just don't plan to own many guns and money is fine, get the 3" K-frame or L-frame now.
 
The Taurus is a good gun; my son has one and took a deer with it 3 years ago. Nothing wrong with a good K Frame Smith, either. Sounds like a win either way. Keep the Taurus and save the $$$ would be what I'd do. Put it towards another guitar! BTW, nice axes in your avatar: A Telecaster and is that a LP TV or Jr?
 
The Taurus is a good gun; my son has one and took a deer with it 3 years ago. Nothing wrong with a good K Frame Smith, either. Sounds like a win either way. Keep the Taurus and save the $$$ would be what I'd do. Put it towards another guitar! BTW, nice axes in your avatar: A Telecaster and is that a LP TV or Jr?
Yes a tele and a PRS SE One
 
I cannot speak about the S&W K frame, but I own a Taurus Model 66 and it's a solid revolver, very accurate. Keep the Taurus and get a K frame too.
 
I've always been a big fan of the S&W K frame revolvers. No other S&W revolver fits me as well as the K frame, it just feels so well balanced and points so well.

I only owned one Taurus and it was a good one. But I'll take a S&W every tie.
 
Taurus has an advantage over S&W in available configurations at reasonable prices, especially used. I picked-up an early 2000's Taurus Total Titanium K-frame equivalent snub in .44 special for $349. It predates the recent quality concerns and there is nothing like it in the S&W catalog.
 
I have Taurus 85 that I beat the hell out of. Had it for about 25 years. I think that's a knock off S&W 36. Great utility J frame revolver. Probably carried that one more than any I own. I also have several K frames and an N frame that I frequently shoot. I've also owned a few L frames but never could see the point there. Personally I like the K frames better than any revolver I own. I have a model 19 (2.5" barrel) that I've carried some. The thing about K frames, that would include model 10, 14, 15, 19, 66 and some others I'm not up to speed on, is once you get around a 3'' barrel they can be a formidable weapon at 25 yards. The standard for many years in LE was a K frame with a 4" barrel. When 357 became popular in the 70's the model 28 N frame was standard for LE. The best for 357 full house loads.

I have a model 19 with a 2.5" barrel that is very easy to keep on a paper plate at 25 yards using 38 spl. I'm not saying that's what you need because they are getting spendy but you get the idea. K frame snubby. Keep the Taurus as you will regret having sold it some day.
 
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