IWI to introduce new striker fired pistol Masada

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Tirod said:
Um, no, not Glock any more. The Masada seems to have an interchangeable trigger group which allows some more options. Glock? Pinned and numbered to the slide.

Now, who else does that, and beat out Glock in a government contract to supply a large number of guns? With a interchangeable trigger group, serial numbered, which accepts different grip unit's, allows the company armorer to fit it to the soldier, and which comes on large "frame" and compact. Switchable on demand. Same with the slide units.

Nothing stays the same. S&W dominated the LEO pistol market as they were changing over from revolvers, and during that time it was the standard for US LEO holstered firearms. Glock came in with one that more closely resembles a revolvers manual of arms, and with some low ball salesmanship took over the contracting. Does that make Glock the standard, no, not so much. They didn't get the military contract. A different pistol did. The Masada seems to include a significant feature from the SIG.

Glock is old school now. Out of date. Without a revised trigger group they will descend into the ranks of Fudd guns. The clock is ticking.
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Sorry Tirod, that's just drivel. Last I checked Glock is still number 1 in sales. What is so great about the P320'esk trigger group. If one needs to go from a compact to full frame, for example, you need new barrel, slide, magazines and frame. Might as well buy another gun, that to me is easier.

So is Glock out of date because of this gimmickry? I don't think so. All modern guns today still use "out of date" bullets, primers, case and powder. There is nothing really new under the sun. In essence they are bullet delivery systems.

The military contract, really? The military is your criteria? What military? How about other modern militaries that chose Glock, what they don't count?
 
vba said:
Sorry Tirod, that's just drivel. Last I checked Glock is still number 1 in sales. What is so great about the P320'esk trigger group. If one needs to go from a compact to full frame, for example, you need new barrel, slide, magazines and frame. Might as well buy another gun, that to me is easier.
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Just personal preference, but the trigger on the 320 is miles ahead of the Glock, in my hands anyway. I don't really care about the modular design when it comes to caliber swapping or really going up or down in size, for the most part.

I do like the idea that it takes 250 magazines so I can use the compact 250 9mm magazine I have with my full size 320 simply by purchasing a $40 compact grip. It would make for a handier to conceal 15 round grip compared to the 17, and the 17 round mags could serve as back up.

It also might be nice for people whole like to modify their grips without fear of wrecking the gun. Personally the 320 feels fine to me as is, but different strokes.

The big issue with the modular fire control is that it makes cleaning the guts of the gun a snap. You just pop the whole thing out, spray it down, swab what you can, and toss it back in.

I think Glocks are great, but the SIG fits my hand better, is more comfortable to shoot, and is very accurate. Lots of good striker fired guns out there. Glock has the lion's share of the market, but people don't NEED to subscribe their one-size-fits-all perfection anymore.

Still hand me a Glock and plop my butt into a firefight, I'll be happy to say my prayers to St. Gaston. However, they really aren't the beat fitting or shooting handgun for everyone.
 
vba said:
Sorry Tirod, that's just drivel. Last I checked Glock is still number 1 in sales.
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Might want to research that claim.. It will literally crush you to learn that Ruger outsells every manufacture...
 
jjones45 said:

With so many good striker fired pistols available today it seems the market is crowded and anything new is too late. That’s what I’m hearing anyway, I personally think more is better. With that said this gun definitely reminds me of a more refined Ruger American. I’ll check it out when they become available
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Everybody wants to be a Glock. I'm not a SJW, but in the interest of diversity, I'll keep my 1911. LOL!
 
mgmorden said:
If you got to the store and there's a new brand of refridgerator you don't wonder what it does new: they all do the same thing.
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You obviously haven't been refrigerator shopping lately.. they have built in TV's, WIFI and will order your groceries for you now-a-days. :)

Handguns.. not so much new under the sun..
 
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scaatylobo said:
Bad idea for that name,imnsho

Masada was not a good thing in Jewish history.

Jew's took their own lives rather than be captured,my version is to die taking them out and NOT by your own hand = unless it is holding a grenade without a pin :)
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If that is really what happened... Can we trust Josephus?

That said... this pistol isn't that attractive to me...
 
Having more guns on the market us a good thing. If it's good it will sell, if not it will quietly go away. I fail to see why so many argue about products they like as if they were profiting from them! My loyalty is with good products, not just a name.
 
Yes, IWI usually makes very good products. I got A+ experiences with X95 and Galil Ace. Hopefully it doesn't suck with Masada pistol.
 
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