Now I'm confused...

This one
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/7...owder-charging-die-long-22-caliber-and-larger

Powder thru does not expand

or for $6 more get the set and have both

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016832817/lee-powder-charging-die-kit

I load rifle on the classic turret and you can do it two ways. use your auto disk, buy an auto drum that doesn't need to riser die or buy a powder through doe like dudedog linked and a lee funnel. If I'm doing rifle rounds they get weighed separately and trickled and the charge dropped in the lee funnel/thru the die into the case and then turn the turret head and seat a bullet. .

I’m guessing the third die is a Lee Crimp.

D B, Dudedog linked to what I use with a Lee ClassiccTurret. Buy the two-size set if you plan to expand calibers. Buy several if you keep them on the turrets. On sale right now.

D.B. Cooper,

Bottleneck rifle cartridge dies are different than handgun dies. First, most rifle die sets include only 2 dies, instead of the 3 dies normally found in handgun die sets. Expanding is handled totally different. Instead of a separate expander die as found in handgun die sets, expanding the case neck is usually handled by a small "expander ball" attached to the decapping pin, which is pulled thru the case neck as the case is removed from the resizing die. Hope that helps.

Don

Expanding for most bottleneck rifle rounds is done with the decapping stem in the size die. Unlike the smaller OD pin used in universal decap dies or pistol dies where there will be another die that expands the case as powder flows through it.



So the powder die for the rifle case goes over the shoulder instead of inside the case. Why do they do that? Because the ID of a rifle case is smaller than most pistol rounds add to that something thick enough to expand the case mouth and it’s going to have a tiny ID so powder bridging would be a nightmare heck even without a powder through expander, using some extruded powders, bridging is bad enough as it is.

Your welcome and thank you.