Opinions on some .22s on the used rack

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cdb1 said:
I had a Ted Williams 12 gauge pump supposedly made by High Standard. I must say Ted Williams doesn’t have quite the ring to it that JC Higgins has for a firearm name. I’ve heard Ted Williams was very good with a shotgun.
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The JC Higgins 36 semi auto 22 was made by High Standard. Sears had guns made for them by different manufactures. If you look at the tube fed Ted Williams rifles. The loading hole in the tube is to the side instead of the bottom.
JC Higgins was the name of an employee, if I remember correctly. Ted Williams was a Baseball player that made the baseball hall of fame, went into the service during the Korean War, came home and made it into the hall of fame a second time.
 
Ted Williams was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame once, in 1966. He served in WWII and Korea.
 
Noble 235 pump .22 rifle in J.B. Wood, "Troubleshooting Your Rifle and Shotgun". Doesn't sound like a keeper. Made between 1949 and 1972. Company no longer around. Wood, a gunsmith, said of the 235: "Considering the bad points of its design, it's amazing it lasted so long." He warned repair cost would probably exceed the value of the repaired gun.

Back in the 1960s, a neighbor had one and we shot it. It was nothing unusual. I would call it a disposable farm rifle. Shoot it til it broke, then buy something better. Noble despite the name does not have a high reputation.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
The J.C. Higgins brand was used by Sears from 1908 until 1962 on sporting good items. It was replaced with the Ted Williams brand.
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Now if it was a 30-31 it would have left with me so fast my wallet would be smoking...I am really looking for a nice one with the retractable sling...or dog leash....whatever you want to call it....I just find little things like that very cool.

I passed on one about a year ago....I was being a little snobbish....this time I will not be so picky....I can always trade up.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
The JC Higgins 36 semi auto 22 was made by High Standard. Sears had guns made for them by different manufactures. If you look at the tube fed Ted Williams rifles. The loading hole in the tube is to the side instead of the bottom.
JC Higgins was the name of an employee, if I remember correctly. Ted Williams was a Baseball player that made the baseball hall of fame, went into the service during the Korean War, came home and made it into the hall of fame a second time.
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I really have a soft spot for "house brands".....we all know western auto did not make any guns...but boy I am really drawn to stuff like that....then again that Revelation is a ;)
 
Shot some Mo-Skeet-O's when I was a kid at summer camp. On parent's day I shot against my Dad and one of the counselors that thought he was hot stuff. Waxed 'em both. (Dad's forte was bolt rifles the counselor - who knows). Lot of fun shooting those things. Kind of a tough target to shoot. Shot them with the 512B models.

As to the OP, I'd take the 512 in whatever condition it is as long as it's a shooter.
 
I almost never worry about used .22LR bores. The wax on bullets does a great job in protecting it. The outside finish may be in extremely poor condition, but I've never seen a rusted bore that had been fired and put away dirty.

The only concern I'd have with the 512 would be the feed mechanism and extraction/ejection. If lots of .22 Shorts had been fired, they may have eroded the chamber, causing LR cases to expand into the enlarged forward chamber and causing poor extraction. Tubular feed lifters can also be problematic if worn, but I think the Remington mechanisms are better than Savage and others.
 
Ive got a small side job now that should provide funding i can use to pick up the 512. Unless of course the wife has plans for it already:(
 
Remington 512 only because my brother had one when were in HS.

We had several 22's but that one was by far the best repeater.

I bought a new 22 a few years ago and looked high and low for a 512 for a few hundred bucks. Never did find one.

I ended up with a CZ 455 for about 3x the money.

Actually they get a lot more for 512's these days than most used 22's. You would do well to snag that one.
 
For me I would ignore everything on that rack and put the JC Higgins Model 36 on layaway quick like bunny as it's a genuine Hi-Standard sold under the JC Higgins Name by Sears RoebuckRoebuck & Co. in the 50's and 60's & they're notoriously excellent shooters . I have a JC Higgins model 31 with the original two-piece Walnut stock and it's one of the best shooting 22's that I have along with my Stevens Buckhorn 66 from about 1932 and my Stevens model 87a's .
 
If I'm remembering correctly... the higgans came in the original stamped metal box with all papers etc. Like new condition and maybe had a vintage scope mounted on it too... asking $375...
 
Mossberg first ,then the 512.
A Mossberg of that vintage will out shoot guns that cost 4-5 times as much.
I have a 44 us that has made me alot of money at the range.
Parts are a problem with the 512 , no so much with the Mossberg.
 
Get yourself a package of dummy rounds to check out any tubular magazine rifle before you buy. Many older tube guns don't feed reliably. External box magazines are easier to make work, especially metal ones...(not those Remington junky plastic ones).
 
I've owned and worked on many .22LR rifles over the years. Mossbergs tend to last quite a while, but never seemed to shoot really accurately. They tended to have sloppy chambers, being very forgiving as to ammo used, which is a better situation than having a nice rifle that doesn't feed or eject well (two examples of that situation that I've had problems with are the Remington 581, 540 series and the newer Marlin 39A).
 
theswimmer said:
Mossberg first ,then the 512.
A Mossberg of that vintage will out shoot guns that cost 4-5 times as much.
I have a 44 us that has made me alot of money at the range.
Parts are a problem with the 512 , no so much with the Mossberg.
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Maybe "not" so much, but who's checking?
 
milemaker13 said:
My only concern with the 512 is mounting a scope. I dont remember it having a grooved receiver or drilled/tapped.

It shouldn't cost more than 50 bucks for drilling and tapping, but $75 including mounting the scope. It's not worth more than that, but I haven't charged for work in many years, so don't know for sure. If you lived in Maine, I'd do it for nothing.
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