1862 Pocket Police Cap Rake Question

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I have seen this mod done on many of the 1851s but have not seen any pics of it being done to an 1862.

I was ready to start lastnight but then it looks like the pin would need to be set way back for a good hole to be drilled.

Has anybody done this to an 1862?
 
Pete D. said:
Cap Rake? This is a new term for me. Explain, please.
Pete
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It's a short steel pin set vertically in the hammer channel of the frame, not far away from the cylinder nipples. When the hammer is pulled, any stuck caps on the hammer face will be raked off by the pin. Google "cap rake" and select images. You'll see some examples. While this does work, deburring/smoothing/buffing the hammer face and it's safety notch will go a long way to keep caps from sticking to the hammer face.
 
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Jackrabbit1957 said:
I thought it was to help keep spent caps from dropping into the action under the hammer.
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It will. But if you can keep the cap from sticking to the hammer face in the first place, you don't need a rake. I watched the following video and tried the solution on two 1851s with the same results Mike had. I also have an 1860 Army with a cap rake, and it works fine too. Just easier to smooth the hammer face and safety notch than to drill and cut.

 
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I did the honing and polishing on my other open tops, and on this 1862. Also has after market nipples.BUT this thing is just terrible with cap jams.

I opted to try the rake install similar to the one where the penny was used.There was just not enough to drill down too on this one.

I used a brass washer I instead. I should have it finished tonight and test fire in the morning.

If it turns out good, I"ll post pictures.
 
Thanks Fingers!!

Here's what a "normal" installation looks like. The pocket guns get a little different install. You have to mount it at a 45 degree angle (obviously back where there is some "meat" to drill into). The mounting hole extends into the arbor which gives you a second "staking " pin for the arbor (which like a little extra insurance ).
Once the post is installed, it is bent down to get closer to the nipple. When satisfied with the position (y'all need to clean your minds up a little at this point!!) , you can then thin the width of the post to fit the safety notch, clean it up with a file and slot the hammer for clearance .
I don't have a picture of one done that way but I will post one the next time i do one ( probably this weekend).

BTW, all my cap posts are stainless steel, screwed in with red locktite applied.

Mike
 

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Thank you Mike, that is what I was wanting to do. IF this blade rake doesn't work in the morning, I will do the pin.
 
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All I can day is wow..what a difference. I AM IN LOVE again with this one.

So far so good. I shot 50 rounds with this blade type cap rake.. NOT a single cap jam at all. 20190105_105857.jpg 20190105_174643.jpg
 
Yes the cap rake was a little more of a challenge on my Uberti '62 Police. A '62 Pietta uses their Navy frame.
Cap rakes or posts really work, put over 100 rounds through my Navy in the last 2 days with out a single "cap in the works".
 
I had been so dissapointed with the 1862 I went for it.

It was basically useless as it was and anything I did wasn't going to hurt it..

All I can say is wow, with a big ole smile...
 
That's awesome Pocket!! It's great when folks post these things!

Cars and guns . . . . the crowds are very similar! Shade tree/weekend mechanics along with gun Smith's/tuners and the respective industries alike learn from the competition crowd and I'm pretty sure the cap post (rake. Even though it looks more like a post than a rake!!) came from the comp. community. Bolt blocks and action stops came from fast-draw and probably much more than I learned from Mr. Jim Martin (or, maybe MOST of what I learned ) came from the quick draw/fast draw comp. days. A young Jim Martin worked on S.A.s for (and taught) competition to competitors and movie actors. (I was just a kid back then !! I'm a late 50's baby for crying out loud!! Lol)

Anyway, taking note of what's new from the comp. crowd usually shows up in production from industry. Nice!!

Hey 44Dave!!

Hey Dave!!

Mike
 
45 Dragoon said:
That's awesome Pocket!! It's great when folks post these things!

Cars and guns . . . . the crowds are very similar! Shade tree/weekend mechanics along with gun Smith's/tuners and the respective industries alike learn from the competition crowd and I'm pretty sure the cap post (rake. Even though it looks more like a post than a rake!!) came from the comp. community. Bolt blocks and action stops came from fast-draw and probably much more than I learned from Mr. Jim Martin (or, maybe MOST of what I learned ) came from the quick draw/fast draw comp. days. A young Jim Martin worked on S.A.s for (and taught) competition to competitors and movie actors. (I was just a kid back then !! I'm a late 50's baby for crying out loud!! Lol)

Anyway, taking note of what's new from the comp. crowd usually shows up in production from industry. Nice!!

Hey 44Dave!!

Hey Dave!!

Mike
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Thank's to Mike my open tops are "race cars"
 
Seriously, I was about to toss this in the junk parts box. Then I saw that post where the penny was used. The feeling of NOT having a jam and having to stop to clear it is great.
 
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