Remington Arms layoffs

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Enfielder said:
55 people are losing their jobs to a "downturn" in the firearms market.
Perhaps that has something to do with a downturn in quality.
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Remington's quality downturn happened years ago, it seems a little late to attribute a recent lay off to that.

The whole firearms industry suffered a downturn when Trump was elected and the threat of immediate, radical anti-gun legislation was averted. Remember, Obama was one of the firearm industry's best salesmen, and sales of firearms and ammunition soared during his administration.
 
While its very sad and hard for me when people lose American jobs I cant say I'm surprised. IMO anything Remington I have touched other than the older rem700 rifles are complete crap!! I am not going to spend $600 on a rem700 when I can get a savage that will shoot tighter groups and better CS for $400. Jacking the price up on stuff when the quality isn't there doesn't help matters much.

People complain about the Chevy plant in my state closing. You want $40k for a Chevy Cruze! I am all for higher wages, benefits, etc. but c'mon people you want $40hr and unlimited overtime in your contracts to push buttons. My plant almost went on strike last summer because a guy sitting in an air conditioned office, watching a computer screen and clicking a mouse wanted $35hr instead of $30 and 6-8 weeks vacation. We have fork lift operators who get a full hour or breaks daily, sit around when there aren't orders to be done, air and heat year round, company paid uniforms, boots, 4 weeks vacation, free coffee and yet complain or try and sabotage things every chance they get and then want more $ and eventually the place closes down because they cant afford it anymore or the customer goes elsewhere.
 
mdauben said:
Remington's quality downturn happened years ago, it seems a little late to attribute a recent lay off to that.

The whole firearms industry suffered a downturn when Trump was elected and the threat of immediate, radical anti-gun legislation was averted. Remember, Obama was one of the firearm industry's best salesmen, and sales of firearms and ammunition soared during his administration.
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It can be both.
 
My favorite deer rifle is a Remington. It’s about 50 years old. But...My experience with Remington products and customer service ten years ago turned me off to all things Remington. I won’t even wear a free hat with Remington on it. It’s simple. Drive your customers away, go out of business.
 
I really like.....older Remington pump action rifles and shotguns.

I like the 572, 7600, and 870. All items they still make replicas of today.

I avoid anything with an “express” finish.
 
I regret buying the only Remington I own a 700. Yes some of the layoffs can be attributed to the lack of panicking, but I'd only buy that if other companies in mass had the same issues. However other companies either planned ahead and saw changing wants in the market, or kept an eye on quality during the last few years. Many companies are thriving and hiring.

Changing the higher ups at Remington a few years ago did zero to fix what many were telling them needed to happen.
 
The people who made the poor decisions for Remington are no longer alive. The decision in 1946 to keep using the flawed trigger design used on virtually all of their bolt actions when their own engineers found it to be flawed and proposed a new design doomed the company. By the 1970's they were spending way too much money paying for lawyers and out of court settlements and that didn't leave enough for new product design and development. Quality had to be cut in order to pay for the lawyers and settlements.

Most of those settlements included non-disclosure statements which meant they could keep the problems shrouded in secrecy. Until the internet. Most shooters think the Remington issue is recent, but it is not. They just found out recently.
 
I wish I had kept my 700-6MM rifle & had it repaired when it decided to fire by itself but I got mad & sold it--that's a long time ago but I never purchased anything Remention again.
 
I cant ever find any core lokt bullets whichbus a shame


It was inevitable starting with the teigger ordeal that was blown out of proportion which then lead to freedom group.

At some point we wont have any gun manufacturers and new startups will be so tied up in red tape very little new supply will come out.

Maybe if they wouldn't have doubled down on the r51 or made the rp9 or maybe sell something relevant to modern shooters or just build better quality they would have turned enough profit to be stable.
 
Thats funny they just announced this. They've had "Now hiring production workers" on their sign since the new year. It was there the last week in Feb when I drove by. I was out there last Thursday but didn't drive by the plant.
 
mdauben said:
....The whole firearms industry suffered a downturn when Trump was elected and the threat of immediate, radical anti-gun legislation was averted.
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No, the firearms industry boom ended two years earlier, mid way through Obamas second term.
There was no gun or ammo panic during 2014-16. Old white women aren't as scary as Barry.





Remember, Obama was one of the firearm industry's best salesmen, and sales of firearms and ammunition soared during his administration.
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I still think he should have been honored by the NRA as the "Salesman of the Century". I would plaster his face on the American Rifleman and every billboard I could.
 
jmr40 said:
The people who made the poor decisions for Remington are no longer alive. The decision in 1946 to keep using the flawed trigger design used on virtually all of their bolt actions when their own engineers found it to be flawed and proposed a new design doomed the company. By the 1970's they were spending way too much money paying for lawyers and out of court settlements and that didn't leave enough for new product design and development. Quality had to be cut in order to pay for the lawyers and settlements.

Most of those settlements included non-disclosure statements which meant they could keep the problems shrouded in secrecy. Until the internet. Most shooters think the Remington issue is recent, but it is not. They just found out recently.
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Funny that my 1980 700BDL has never had a trigger issue of any kind; it is perfectly crisp, no creep and better than any Ruger or Browning trigger I have ever used.

Quality wasn't cut to pay for lawsuits; the US gun buying public want top-tier quality for Chinese clone prices; and when they can't have both, they vote for cheap. All one has to do is read half the threads on forums like these to see that. WE are our own worst enemy in that regard.
 
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I have 2...technically 3... a 700 from the mid 90s, a marlin 795 from 2010, and am 870 that is/was my father in laws only shotgun he ever owned, I’m guessing probably 70s since he is around a 1960 model himself.

No more.

I love my 700 but after my rifle they changed the stocks, and that meant cheaper, and the rifles just feel cheap. The finish looks cheap on the newer ones. Shortly after I got my .270 I started looking at a .223 and I quickly got turned off. Spent money on another brand (anheuser busch) and never looked back. I still don’t have a bolt 223.
 
George P said:
Quality wasn't cut to pay for lawsuits; the US gun buying products want top-tier quality for Chinese clone prices; and when they can't have both, they vote for cheap
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Yep, gun buyers want top notch Weatherby quality for Chinese cheap.

i own numerous Remington rifles with those triggers. Some of those rifles have fired tens of thousands of rounds. Never had a problem. Many of the incidents with Remington rifles were caused by Bubba's attempts to adjust the trigger pull.
 
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I still feel remington shotguns are still very solid .Yeah the wingmasters now are not as they were, but the V3 and the versamax are some innovative and quality pieces.

Certainly the R51 debacle and the title quality have not kept up, but Remington s problems, like most companies in fanger, made bad business decisions and are paying that price. Unfortunately, a good product is only one part of a successful company.
 
George P said:
Funny that my 1980 700BDL has never had a trigger issue of any kind; it is perfectly crisp, no creep and better than any Ruger or Browning trigger I have ever used.

Quality wasn't cut to pay for lawsuits; the US gun buying products want top-tier quality for Chinese clone prices; and when they can't have both, they vote for cheap. All one has to do is read half the threads on forums like these to see that. WE are our own worst enemy in that regard.
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Well, I dont think anybody complained about the FEEL of a Walker trigger (though a properly adjusted XMARK is nice too), but having the gun discharge when the safety is flipped off, well you got a problem.

Even Mike Walker knew his design was flawed......:(
 
I showed some Remington enthusiasts my new Winchester Model 70 Weather Extreme; they were green with envy (Thanks folks, my comedy show will be in town all week - tickets are available at www....)!
 
I stand by my 870s as fine shotguns, especially since they were all made in the sixties and seventies. My TB cracked the receiver at about 250K rounds and they put a new one on it for wholesale, not bad for a forty four year old gun. I'd buy one of their 1911 semis if I needed one. All else, nah. I don't want to see them go down. Whatever they've done, it pales compared to how Colt treated us over the past fifty years.
 
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