Swede mistaken for 'deer' by hunter using thermal optic

Double Naught Spy · Apr 4, 2019

I was reading where y'all may have life sentences that can go on for quite a while very rare cases, but a simple murder conviction would only get you 18 years. So a year or so plus a fine does not seem unusual for Sweden. Nice to see the court system working so quickly.

roo_ster · Apr 4, 2019

I could not ID that target given 24sec of video. Perhaps more time & context would have helped to cross off some possibilities.

In any case, I could not ID a game animal and the right answer is not to shoot.

Toss in the backstop being a flipping HOUSE, and there is no excuse for this joker. Glad the old man was not killed.

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And DNS is correct, some of the cues you expect from visible light sensors do not exist with thermals. And the reverse is true.

Skoghund · Apr 5, 2019

Reading about the first day of the trial it seems the jogger was lucky, if you can call it luck, the Norsk hunter was using FMJ ammo. Fmj ammo is illegal for hunting deer and boar. When the police checked his camera they found film of him aiming twice at different times at human targets.

GunnyUSMC · Apr 5, 2019

Odd Job said:
Or a bear, who knows....

The bear was just trying to blend in. You can imagine him telling the other bears about how he was able to go into the human area and fool the humans by walking on his hind legs.

Now for the hunter, an idiot. I believe his intentions were to kill another person.
I used thermal sights in the military, in training and combat. Target identification was a priority.

Double Naught Spy · Apr 5, 2019

Skoghund said:
Reading about the first day of the trial it seems the jogger was lucky, if you can call it luck, the Norsk hunter was using FMJ ammo. Fmj ammo is illegal for hunting deer and boar. When the police checked his camera they found film of him aiming twice at different times at human targets.

That may or may not be extremely damming. What was missing from the information was exactly when that happened. The relevance there is that he may not have been aiming his rifle at humans, only playing with the scope. If it was just at some point in the past, there is no way to know if the scope was on the rifle or not. If it was sometime around the shooting, then that would be more likely that he was aiming the rifle at people. You can find plenty of YouTube vids where people are playing with thermal rifle scopes and sighting on people, the family dog, etc., but the scopes are not on rifles when they are dong it.

Madcap_Magician · Apr 5, 2019

I'm not really able to determine from the video that Olle was definitively human from the thermal image alone.

BUT.

The presence of two large buildings in the immediate background of what you're shooting at should make you at least think about the possibility that the blob moving on your thermal scope isn't an animal. I mean... seriously.

Gross, criminal negligence.

Skoghund · Apr 5, 2019

Here's a link to the trial, https://www.nsd.se/nyheter/jagaren-har-siktat-mot-manniskor-forut-nm5069081.aspx May be readable if you have a translate function on your computer.

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