1858 Remington, Genuine or repro.

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It is heavily corroded. I used a honing stone on the top flat trying to bring out the stamps somewhat. Some one else has tried removing screws by drilling. Nothing moves but the hammer and oddly enough the trigger will lock and release it. No barrel obstruction, a rod goes to the bottom of the cylinder bore.

I can make out on the top flat...……., what I think is Remington, Sept 14 1858. Underneath that appears to be New York USA .

If there are other markings they are hidden beneath the patina of corrosion and dings. There isn't any loose rust or scale.

Wonder if Rid O Rust would bring out any additional stamps.
 
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Pulled the grips, has the same markings as your bottom photo, plus a 5 or 6 digit string of numbers.
Perhaps it is an original, albeit of little monetary value. Nice to have apiece of history even if I don't know anything of that history
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The fellow who gave it to me is now living with his brother in the Philippines, last I knew. I'll email him maybe I can get a little more background.
 
Pulled the grips, has the same markings as your bottom photo, plus a 5 or 6 digit string of numbers.
Perhaps it is an original, albeit of little monetary value. Nice to have apiece of history even if I don't know anything of that history

Submerge the gun in a pan or a bucket of Evaporust. Leave it for around 5 days, then remove, rinse, compressed air dry, THEN apply liquid wrench. The screws will likely come out, and It will probably come apart.

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De rusted and disassembled . Missing is the main spring and the mainspring tension screw is rusted off flush with inside of the frame and I haven’t been able to back it out as yet.

The main spring from an ASM 1858 fits and powers the hammer but it is short by an 1/8 or so in length.

Someone with more talent and patience than me could probably restore it to a functioning condition. The bore has full rifling and no heavy pitting like the frame and cylinder.

Guess I’ll build a wall box and display it under glass with some civil war background prints.
 
It ain't a shooter but it sure as heck is a classic original wallhanger. A lot of history there, and I would be proud to own and display it in a nice case!

I am not an 1863 NMA fan but that is really very nice!

Regards,

Jim
 
Guess I’ll build a wall box and display it under glass with some civil war background prints.

That's exactly what I would do. It's a great decoration/conversation piece.
If that gun could talk there's no telling the stories it would tell. You should display it and be proud to own it.

Cheers.
 
used evaporust on a Pietta NMA this week that was rust welded. About 16 hour soak to get all the finish off and free the ram enough to get it out without damage another two hours to get the cylinder axis pin loose enough to drive out with a bit of wood and a claw hammer and still have two screws that won't budge so it is in the shop waiting for liquid wrench to do its thing. Lots of dark grey staining where rust was and some small pitting so don't cuss when you hear me start up the felt wheel. Action "works" now instead of frozen. thing I am going to replace all springs except hammer spring which seems fine once I get it apart.
 
That's pretty cool. Can you see the barrel address better now?
Not really, but I haven't tried any techniques to try raising the lettering.

I've gotten some new parts from Dixie, the main spring, a new hammer screw, a replacement trigger/stop spring and assorted other screws. The hammer screw, the trigger/stop screw and the the loading link screw were true fits, the other screws would require drilling out and tapping the screw holes. The springs were true to fit and function well.

I can half and full cock the hammer but have to rotate the cylinder by hand. It locks into battery on some chambers, but the cylinder stops on some are worn or dinged on others, the hammer fall snaps caps.. The hand appears to be too short either from wear or corrosion and the cylinder stops (?) as well as the cylinder ratchet are also worn. The base pin is fully round, IE can be removed by just dropping the loading lever with out removing the loading lever cross screw. Original, hand made replacement ??

I'm debating if I want to try and rehab some of the metal and put a plum finish on it or just display as is. Perhaps with a repro powder flask, bullet molds and reproduction cap tin on a table or wall case with a background of something depicting the era.

Any one has access to serial numbers, this one is 66158, please post any info known.
 
Any one has access to serial numbers, this one is 66158, please post any info known.

The Remington Society of America has a forum where they answer questions about serial numbers.
If you post the question there they will tell you about it.

Remington Society of America Forum Index Page: [Go to Pre-1899 handguns]--->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/

Here's 2 sample threads that show the information given for other 1858 guns. [They may like to see a photo of the serial number on the frame.]

1. From 2019 --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26225

2. From 2015 --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23152

Remington Society of America Home Page: --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org

Please let us know what you find out, perhaps send us a link to the thread.
 
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The Remington Society of America has a forum where they answer questions about serial numbers.
If you post the question there they will tell you about it.

Remington Society of America Forum Index Page: [Go to Pre-1899 handguns]--->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/

Here's 2 sample threads that show the information given for other 1858 guns. [They may like to see a photo of the serial number on the frame.]

1. From 2019 --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26225

2. From 2015 --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23152

Remington Society of America Home Page: --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org

Please let us know what you find out, perhaps send us a link to the thread.

Tried to register, repeated the process twice. The site won’t accept my @gmail.com address. Can’t post photos or ask a question.
 
Don't give up yet!!!!!

You can register with a Gmail account by using the "contact us" link listed below.


The "contact us" link works without registering. I found it at the bottom of the FAQ page which says that you simply need to contact an administrator.

Contact us --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/memberlist.php?mode=contactadmin


It states " If you have gmail please send me email I will enable it for you unfortunately leaving gmail wide open is just to much spam.

Also if your email is *.*.com something.something.com it's usually a BS email account but again if you send me email I will enable your specific email."
 
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Don't give up yet!!!!!

You can register with a Gmail account by using the "contact us" link listed below.


The "contact us" link works without registering. I found it at the bottom of the FAQ page which says that you simply need to contact an administrator.

Contact us --->>> https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/memberlist.php?mode=contactadmin


It states " If you have gmail please send me email I will enable it for you unfortunately leaving gmail wide open is just to much spam.

Also if your email is *.*.com something.something.com it's usually a BS email account but again if you send me email I will enable your specific email."


Thanks. LOL. My Gmail account is my spam account. It’s Why I use it for on line stuff.
 
Ok got signed up at the Remington Society. Posted the same set of photos there as seen here. Newbies have to have photos and the text reviewed before publication to the site.
 
Reply from the Remington Society Forum. By its serial number the piece was manufactured in March of 1864. Most likely a civilian gun.
 
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