Lines on scope to fine. Any fix?

jeeptim said:

So I have a really nice Bushnell scope really like it but........
At the range today and found put an orange dot on white paper the black lines showed up very well super accurate..1/4" groups at 50yds.
Black target the lines disappear and 1+" with a flyer or two @ 50yds.
The scope was pricy and I really like it other then not shooting black targets any fixes?

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Call the manufacturer and see if they will replace the reticle, that is about the only solution I know of. I don't like fine cross hairs, have a number of scopes, purchased cheap, with the things and it was a fad during the rifle silhouette days. It is easy to loose the center.

But, be prepared for the brand to state they will not replace the reticle. They may pretend they could do it, but actually, they don't have the facilities or people who could do it. Facilities that could do it are across an ocean and the workers don't speak or write English. Unlike the 60's, 70's, when things were manufactured in the US, and brands had US factories with customer service departments. Customer service had access to machine tools, parts, and personnel who understand the assembly and disassembly of the things, but these things don't exist in the US anymore. Production has been off shored and it is questionable if the Chinese manufacturer would even do such work, because products are now built to be disposable. If if breaks, they send you a new one off the production line. And if the production line is no longer making that model, and your item is still under warranty, they will send you the latest model still in production. No one really fixes stuff anymore.

Unless you buy an illuminated reticle optic, you’re going to be stuck fighting black reticle lines against black targets. Welcome to rifle shooting...

You need a smaller bulls eye. Or just aim at a corner of the bull. I like targets with a square aiming point and place the crosshair on one corner. When using round aiming points I place the crosshair so that it is just touching the top, or bottom of the arc of the circle.

If you're shooting for groups you adjust the scope so that it is hitting at least 1" from the aiming point. That way you don't hit exactly where you're aiming and tear up the aiming point. Most of my rifles are zeroed so that if I'm aiming at the bottom arc of a round bulls eye the bullets will impact in the center of the bull at 100 yards. If I'm aiming at the top arc of the bull at 200 yards they still hit in the center of the bull.

Don't use black targets.

Aim at the bottom of the black circle, not a scope but you get the idea. Adjust POI accordingly.



If you don’t want to change anything get a package of hole punch reinforcements they are dirt cheap, come in all sorts of colors and as long as the background isn’t the same color, give a precision aim point.



A roll of butchers paper and $5 worth of those things will give you years worth of targets.

You might try this. I use black lick-em and stick-em pasters from my competition days. They are about an inch by an inch in a roll. I use three for a vertical line and 3 for a horizontal line. Stick on the target like a cross. Then I nestle the scope cross hairs into the intersection of the vertical and horizontal lines formed by the pasters on the target. I happen to like the thin “varmint” cross hairs and this works well for me.

Any black tape will work, just form a cross with 2 pieces. Give it a shot...

Varminterror said:

Unless you buy an illuminated reticle optic, you’re going to be stuck fighting black reticle lines against black targets. Welcome to rifle shooting...

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This pretty much nails it. A thicker reticle may help a little, but an illuminated reticle would be the real solution. 2 of my 4 scopes on my rifles have IR's, and while I don't use them often they are handy to have. Full disclosure, though, I'm a budget optic guy and definitely not an afficianado of fine glass. My most expensive scope cost under $200, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Years ago this company “Premier Reticles” would modify scopes. Not sure if they are still in business.

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I like the old 4 square Leupold sight in target.........aim for center........where there is no black.
Easy to aim between the four.

Orange pasters on black targets work, but I find them to glow a bit much.
Better for me is white.

Depending upon which Bushnell it is, these people can change the reticle. http://targetshooteroptics.com/Home_Page.php[URL]http://targetshooteroptics.com/Home_Page.php[/URL]