Hornady 45 Cal 240gr XTP Mag .452

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I have been hand loading for a year and half. I have an RCBS single stage press and a Dillon 650XL.
While I am a relatively new reloader, I have managed to load over 45,000 rounds mostly 9mm.
My daughter gave me a 100ct box of Hornady 45 Cal 240gr XTP Mag .452 bullets. I shoot a Remington R1 1911 pistol. My question is can I load these bullets in 45 ACP cases? If so can anyone suggest a load recipe? I use TiteGroup and Bullseye powders. Thank-you.
 
I will defer to others more familiar with the bullet in question but as I understand it, that particular bullet is intended for 45LC, 454 Casull, and 460 Mag. A canelure is typical for a revolver bullet rather than a semi auto and, even if you could load it, it would likely not feed.
 
You can load those bullets in 45 ACP cases using the same load data you would use for loading other jacketed bullets of the same weight. If you do so you have to make sure the bullets are not seated deeper into the case than the other jacketed bullets for which the load data was created.

As DocRock said, there might be a problem with cartridge feeding. The fact that a bullet has a cannelure is irrelevant to the issue.
 
You are better off shooting those in a 45AR revolver. Bullets heavier than 230 grain are hard on 1911's, the slide comes back with excessive speed and peens the frame. One hundred of these probably won't peen out the frame, but still, it won't be good.
 
Those are heavy jacketed hunting bullets designed for .454 and .460. What practical use they would have in a .45ACP is beyond me. While I know it's nice to get free bullets, by the time one develops a load for those 100 projectiles, they are gone, and odds are, the recipe never used again. While they will go bang and go downrange, while the bullets are free, powder and primers are not. I'd suggest trying to trade them for something more applicable for your firearm and your application.
 
Typically jacketed projectiles for .45ACP are .451 rather than .452. While it's only a thousands of an inch difference it may cause increased pressure. Additionally, the extra 10grs (230 vs 240) probably means the bullet is longer than a similar 230gr.
Depending on the propellent charge this could lead to a compressed powder load which could also cause increased pressure.

I'd load these up with no issues for a different caliber as others have said. .45 Colt or .45 Super would be my choices.

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Post # 3 and # 4 are both correct.

I have shot some left over plated 250s intended for .45 Colt out of a .45 ACP auto at leisurely velocities, but I would save those nice bullets for a time when you have a better use for them.

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You can get some sabots for a 50cal black powder gun and they would shoot great, I did that with some 250gr and 300gr yrs ago and am still shooting them.
IF you don't have a black powder rifle or pistol this would be a good start on getting one:). I've done something like that before.
 
There should be no problem loading those in a 45 Auto. The concern is the overall length that will fit in your chamber.
The Hornady bullet looks like it has a short nose, which means it might have to be seated deep, so you'll need to reduce your charge for that and case bulge might be an issue if they get deep enough.

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/handgun/45-cal-452-240-gr-xtp-mag#!/


With respect to diameter, .452 should be fine. Sierra's jacketed 45 Auto bullets are 0.4515".
https://www.sierrabullets.com/product-category/handgun/?filter_diameter=4515&query_type_diameter=or

Western Powders has load data for bullets up to 250 grains, and Lee has load data for bullets up to 260 grains.

Here is Lee's data:
 

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seat one of those bullets in an empty (no powder, no primer) case. keep the c.o.l. long. do the plunk test as you seat the bullet deeper in the case. when that dummy round plunks, function check it in your pistol. if the dummy round doesn't function, keep seating the bullet deeper until it does function. this is your c.o.l. for that bullet in that pistol.

now you can find a load for your bullet. either powder you listed will work nicely here. as others have said, you won't get any expansion out of that bullet because the jacket is so thick, but that particular bullet type (Hornady xtp) is extremely accurate.

luck,

murf
 
seat one of those bullets in an empty (no powder, no primer) case. keep the c.o.l. long. do the plunk test as you seat the bullet deeper in the case. when that dummy round plunks, function check it in your pistol. if the dummy round doesn't function, keep seating the bullet deeper until it does function. this is your c.o.l. for that bullet in that pistol.

now you can find a load for your bullet. either powder you listed will work nicely here. as others have said, you won't get any expansion out of that bullet because the jacket is so thick, but that particular bullet type (Hornady xtp) is extremely accurate.

luck,

murf

That's exactly how I would proceed. I typically do that with ANY new bullet destined for an autoloader.
 
I'll echo the nonexpansion warning.
Ive used those in some heavy loadings, and even at 1250 they don't expand, Other than that I also agree with the other warnings about working up carefully. Watch your pistol for excessive slide velocity, recoil, or other weirdness. Pressure won't be your issue so much as battering your gun.
 
I use those in .45 Colt “Ruger only” loads and in loads for the Rossi 1892. They are tougher than the regular .45 ACP bullets as the others have posted.

That was a nice gift from your daughter, it sounds like she approves of your hobby and wants you to keep it up... maybe load up a batch or two of target loads and take her shooting soon :thumbup:.

Stay safe.
 
I love using these in my 460S&W! If you decide they aren’t worth your time, shoot me a PM and maybe we can workout a deal for some 45Cal bullets that better suit your needs!
 
Funny how suddenly we have two posts about using a .454/.460 hunting bullet in a .45ACP at the same time..........

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