tubeshooter
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Sounds like a neat little gun!
22 mag for sd
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Sounds like a neat little gun!
Rock185
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I like the .22 WMR round and have owned a few, rifles and revolvers. I would prefer the .22 Magnum over .22LR, a sharp stick, or anything less. It would be far from my first choice though for SD. If you're considering a Single Action revolver, a 6.5" barreled SA in a potentially close range, high stress, lethal force situation has some limitations as compared to DA revolvers and semi-auto pistols. And unfortunately, the .22 Mag. cartridge from pistol length barrels just does not generate the ballistics generally published for rifle length barrels. But if my choices were limited to .22 Mag. for some reason, I would practice more with it and hope for the best...
Double Naught Spy
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My old Daisy 880 bb gun will kill. Killing isn't the issue. Stopping is the issue, specifically how quickly the person is stopped. Lots of people are killed with .22, but a lot of them live a long time before dying, right?
If you are going to go with something as big as a 6.5" barrel revolver, I would think that you could be concealing a much more substantial caliber. Is there is a reason you want or need to downside the ammo to a .22 mag?
straightshooterjake
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The short answer to this question is "no." If the question was "I only have a .22 magnum, will it work for sd," then that is a different question, and my answer would be "maybe, let's talk about it." But for anyone choosing a gun, I would strongly recommend some type of centerfire.
With that said, we need more information to really answer your question. What revolvers are you considering, and why do you think they are the best choice for your overall needs. Understanding your whole situation will really shape the answer to your question.
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A 6.5" barreled .22 mag is not easy to carry. You could go with a larger caliber, shorter barrel for the same weight, and have more power.
BSA1
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Many years ago I brought a Taurus 8 round 22 Magnum revolver with a 2 1/2” barrel for my wife. It turned out she did not like it because of the heavy trigger pull so it laid unused in the back of the safe for a long time.
The 22 Magnum is a particularly nasty cartridge. Even more so as Speer, Hornady and Winchester all make ammunition especially designed for use in short barrel revolvers. This little Taurus is very accurate with Speer Gold Dots.
I really like US Surplus Ammo Cans and I really hate empty ones. So I put together a emergency kit using a 30 caliber can. I have 500 rounds of Speed Gold Dot Short Barrel ammunition, the gun in a inexpensive nylon holster, a Marbles ammo caddy loaded with another 30 rounds that clips to the belt and some ear plugs in it. It is a really portable, rugged package. I literally can throw it into the back of my pickup without any fear of damaging the contents inside it.
There is a railroad about 1/2 mile or so from where we live. One of the (rare) hazards is the train derailing and a tank car of dangerous chemical leaking forcing a rapid emergency evacuation. Another thing it is useful for is for traveling in a car. As portable as it is it convenient for taking to a motel room.
I almost brought another Taurus 22 Magnum at a gun show this past Spring. It was a Ultralite model which would make for a nice gun for packing when outdoors such as hiking.
I am not sure I see any need for a longer barrel for self-defense but as a Prepper I occasionally wish I had a Ruger Single-Six with dual L.R. and Magnum cylinders.
The 22 Magnum is a particularly nasty cartridge. Even more so as Speer, Hornady and Winchester all make ammunition especially designed for use in short barrel revolvers. This little Taurus is very accurate with Speer Gold Dots.
I really like US Surplus Ammo Cans and I really hate empty ones. So I put together a emergency kit using a 30 caliber can. I have 500 rounds of Speed Gold Dot Short Barrel ammunition, the gun in a inexpensive nylon holster, a Marbles ammo caddy loaded with another 30 rounds that clips to the belt and some ear plugs in it. It is a really portable, rugged package. I literally can throw it into the back of my pickup without any fear of damaging the contents inside it.
There is a railroad about 1/2 mile or so from where we live. One of the (rare) hazards is the train derailing and a tank car of dangerous chemical leaking forcing a rapid emergency evacuation. Another thing it is useful for is for traveling in a car. As portable as it is it convenient for taking to a motel room.
I almost brought another Taurus 22 Magnum at a gun show this past Spring. It was a Ultralite model which would make for a nice gun for packing when outdoors such as hiking.
I am not sure I see any need for a longer barrel for self-defense but as a Prepper I occasionally wish I had a Ruger Single-Six with dual L.R. and Magnum cylinders.
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ThomasT
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I really like the 22 mag and would have no problems using it for SD. And the longer the barrel the better I like it. A gun with a 6.5" barrel is not a hide out gun but worn in the woods in a good belt holster I would feel well armed. Or just kept loaded around the house or in the truck.
I remember reading a story about a woman who used a 22 mag against someone trying to get through the door on her mobile home. MH doors are not very strong. Just thin fiberglass or aluminum skins over a styrofoam core. She fired 6 rounds through the door and all six rounds completely penetrated the attackers body. Sounds good to me.
I remember reading a story about a woman who used a 22 mag against someone trying to get through the door on her mobile home. MH doors are not very strong. Just thin fiberglass or aluminum skins over a styrofoam core. She fired 6 rounds through the door and all six rounds completely penetrated the attackers body. Sounds good to me.
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The reasonable consensus is that the round is a reasonable found for many application but not primarily for self-defense. It will work for self-defense but that is not the primary reason to buy one. If you are buying just a SD gun, get something else. If you can only buy one gun for the other reasons, then it would work. The particular configuation in the OP isn't an optimal EDC.
WheelGunMan
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I raised hogs for years. When I took them to slaughter, a single .22 LR shot was used to put them down. Shot placement is everything.
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Hog huntin Harry
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Well I'm gonna bite the bullet, eat ramen noodles for a while and get a s&w sd9.
Tell that to a varmint thrashing around in a trap.
Double Naught Spy
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You were doing it wrong.
Wait for the animal to stop thrashing and aim better, LOL.
the Black Spot
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I think it was Sanow/Marshall did some testsand found the 22 mag to be decent in stopping power for its size.
Well if anything this thread has inspired me to go ahead and pick up the NAA Black Widow convertible I saw at the LGS.
I have had a couple of .22 magnums, and I really like them. I would love to have a larger gun chambered in it, but I really dig my little mini revolvers for ultralight carry.
I've been looking for a pocketable .22 hiking gun. The 2" barrel should squeeze out a bit more oomph than my Wasp in .22 mag and maybe the .22lr wont want to tumble as much. Plus I can toss the .22lr cylinder in my vest pocket. Stick a little pill bottle of .22lr in one pocket and a pill bottle of .22 mag in the other and be set for plinking or power. I figure that if I bought a CA or LCR in .22 magnum, i would be just as inaccurate with it as the NAA. Plus I have gotten pretty good out to 7 yards with my Wasp.
I know it's not the DRT man-stopper, but I have come to realize that I simply will not dress around a gun in my day to day. A little pocket barker is better than nothing. Plus the room it takes up on my person is so minimal, I can carry it along with a bigger gun should I find myself wearing a larger piece without even thinking about it. Case in point, I'm heading to the mountains early next month. I dont expect to run into anything a compact 9mm stoked with hard cast can't handle, but the BW or Wasp will be riding along in my vest pocket as back up. My thought is that if we run across someone on the trail that makes my hair prick up, a hand in my pocket resting on the BW will be less threatening and faster to get into action than reaching back behind my hip for my FN. Just nod and smile and walk on.
I have had a couple of .22 magnums, and I really like them. I would love to have a larger gun chambered in it, but I really dig my little mini revolvers for ultralight carry.
I've been looking for a pocketable .22 hiking gun. The 2" barrel should squeeze out a bit more oomph than my Wasp in .22 mag and maybe the .22lr wont want to tumble as much. Plus I can toss the .22lr cylinder in my vest pocket. Stick a little pill bottle of .22lr in one pocket and a pill bottle of .22 mag in the other and be set for plinking or power. I figure that if I bought a CA or LCR in .22 magnum, i would be just as inaccurate with it as the NAA. Plus I have gotten pretty good out to 7 yards with my Wasp.
I know it's not the DRT man-stopper, but I have come to realize that I simply will not dress around a gun in my day to day. A little pocket barker is better than nothing. Plus the room it takes up on my person is so minimal, I can carry it along with a bigger gun should I find myself wearing a larger piece without even thinking about it. Case in point, I'm heading to the mountains early next month. I dont expect to run into anything a compact 9mm stoked with hard cast can't handle, but the BW or Wasp will be riding along in my vest pocket as back up. My thought is that if we run across someone on the trail that makes my hair prick up, a hand in my pocket resting on the BW will be less threatening and faster to get into action than reaching back behind my hip for my FN. Just nod and smile and walk on.
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.22 Magnum makes a great backup cartridge, especially in the short NAA mini revolvers. At 6"+ barrel, you aren't facing much of a weight benefit in a smaller round. Capacity is higher certainly.
KevininPa
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Put the holster grip on it. Aids in shooting and carries like a multitool in the pocket.
I may do this. Ive thought about it several times. My only hang up is that I really like the small laminate wood grips.
I actually planned on buying this gun the other day and went ahead and got a set of brown laminate grips ordered from Amazon. I opted for the stainless finish as I saw no reason to spend 30 more bucks on a black finish. I cobbled together a quick pocket holster, and here I sit with 5 rounds of .22mag in my off hand pocket mostly forgotten.
Range test tomorrow weather permitting
Still that folding grip may be a near future purchse. Good suggestion and thank you!
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I would probably aim for their eyeball or even an ear. That would likely stop them long enough for me to run. It would probably just piss off a mad dog or a wild hog but a person....good-for-nothing people would no doubt lie down and cry if you shot 'em with anything.
Benp
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I’d have no qualms carrying my PMR 30. Either Gold Dots or Hornady critical defense.
Lightweight, holds 30, very accurate and great trigger.
I’ve been fortunate not having any issues with mine.
It’s brother the CMR 30 has had a few magazine related issues but has been getting better with use. Very accurate, same trigger, and lightweight compact as well.
Lightweight, holds 30, very accurate and great trigger.
I’ve been fortunate not having any issues with mine.
It’s brother the CMR 30 has had a few magazine related issues but has been getting better with use. Very accurate, same trigger, and lightweight compact as well.
It's not quite the difference between a horse and a horsefly, but it something like that. It's got quite a bit of oomph to it for such a small load. Lots of report and flash, but it doesn't recoil that harshly. I find it way more fun to shoot than .22lr.
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