Now Beto wants to take ALL THE SEMI-AUTO FIREARMS away (Not just AR15s and AK47s)

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All the Left wingers always need to remove guns from the general population. Beto just happens to be the only one that spoke his mind AT THIS MOMENT.

The others will capitalize on Beto's mistake to push him out of the race but behind the scenes that's what they all want and eventually strive for.

All Left wing politicians know that they will dictators and that the people will turn against them sooner or later because socialism (communism) doesn't work for the people, only for the ruling class.

Having a disarmed population is a real comfort to a dictatorship that has no intention whatsoever of relinquishing power by Democratic means.
 
OK I have a deal for them.

You can make semi-auto's illegal but you also have to make select-fire firearms completely free and legal.

'select-fire' is a nice name, don't ya think? It means users are more 'selective' of where they fire ...
 
There's a lot of comments I would like to make, but I know that on THIS forum politics is a no-no. I wish they had a separate politic forum, but I doubt it is happening anytime soon.
My thoughts about folks like Beto, Hillary, Fauxahontas, Bernie, et al would get me so banned I will refrain. But I agree with the subtle messages you folks are saying......:thumbup:
Thanks Linux!
 
Beto isn't even IN the race, never has been. He's so far down in the Dem polling it isn't even funny. Typically in the 1% - 4% range.

He's just venting his spleen. The rest of the Dems are using him as a barometer to gauge public response, and hone their own lies.
Shhhhh ... actually he's our secret plant to fire up the pro gun/2A base and uncover the truth about the antis.
 
I would happily live through another time of scarcity, because ten million more rifle owners need to "wear the new off", if it were to ensure RKBA rights for my children's children.

Veto is okay by me. Any human that speaks truth is my friend. Sure, I disagree with him, vehemently, but at least he isn't lying.

Oh, for sure and certain, he will not be anything let alone El Presidente.

I definitely enjoyed his show. All things must end though...

HEY TEXAS! Please come pick up your idiot! :)
Has he ever held an actual job? (Being a congresscritter doesn't count.)
 
He will hear us out, give us more attention and we get a "time out" - https://www.healthychildren.org/Eng...discipline/Pages/Disciplining-Your-Child.aspx


Ooops, too late. The cat's out of the bag and a HUGE amount of milk has been spilled and cannot be returned. So any "talk" of compromise or "sensible/reasonable" gun control will be seen as BS by everyone and will be moot. Beto showed their hands and the entire world has already seen the cards.


And, I would love for Beto O'Rourke (or any of the Democrat candidates) to go attend a rape victims support group meeting and tell them they do not have the right to defend themselves from rapists with firearms. In fact, Trump should attend such support group meeting and tell them they absolutely have the right to self defense.
When Obama had his town hall, that woman who was raped in her college apartment and subsequently learned to defend herself and became an NRA spokesperson challenged him, he condescendingly told her she was more likely to be hurt if she has a gun.

BTW, anybody who hasn't yet seen John Lott's excellent video on Hollywood's deceitful presentation of guns, go watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeijIDuksc4
 
When Obama had his town hall, that woman who was raped in her college apartment and subsequently learned to defend herself and became an NRA spokesperson challenged him, he condescendingly told her she was more likely to be hurt if she has a gun.
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.
 
When Obama had his town hall, that woman who was raped in her college apartment and subsequently learned to defend herself and became an NRA spokesperson challenged him, he condescendingly told her she was more likely to be hurt if she has a gun.
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.
O’Rourke said - https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/09...-colorado-buyback-ar-15-ak-47-semi-automatic/

“Do I care more about how upset somebody is who owns a weapon ... for ... self-defense, or do I care more about the families who’ve lost a child?”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/21/woman-who-confronted-beto-orourke-speaks-out/

“Shame on him for coming to Colorado to expound upon our tragedies ... They were criminals that did those horrible acts, and, by definition, those criminals do not obey the law, so there is no legislation that you can pass that is going to stop the evil in a man’s heart. So, if he has a desire to go out to harm someone he will find a way to do that.

... I have four children. I’m 5 foot zero, 100 pounds, cannot defend myself with a fist

... Our current administration absolutely needs to take a stand now, today, and say we will honor the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. We support our president. I love my president, and I implore him, please protect our Second Amendment. We elected you to do just that. We don’t want anything inched away because every little thing that’s on chopping block eventually will lead to no ownership of firearms in America.
 
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All the Left wingers always need to remove guns from the general population.
I'll say it again: guns are not a right-left issue. The really radical Left likes its guns. (Think Antifa wants to give up its guns?) On the other hand, there are plenty of corporatists and authoritarians on the Right (Bloomberg, for example) that don't want ordinary people to have guns.

By making it a right-left issue (as the NRA has done), we alienate a significant portion of our support.
 
Saw Toomey on Meet the Press. Todd was all excited about new gun laws. Asked Toomey about Beto and Toomey dodged saying we should just do what we can do now. Todd was pushing that if Manchin-Toomey was passed then the 5 big rampages since it's first proposal, would not have happened. To his credit, Toomey said the bill would not have stopped four of them, maybe Odessa. Asked about Trump, Toomey had to say, he thinks Trump is on board for something but no one knows. That is because Trump doesn't know himself. He's stuck with his own big yap full of pro and con ambiguity.

Can we get past, the use of left/right cliches. If you actually know history, you will see that this is not useful and mainly is about your politics outside of the gun issue.
 
Friends don't let friends vote D.

True, but neither do friends let friends vote for neocons and other fake conservatives like Romney and Rubio who will gladly sell us down the river in political compromise. The Democrats are doubling down on progressive characters. The conservatives should do in a likewise manner and rid the party of reps who can't be trusted to protect gun rights. Fortunately that has happened but we still have deep state neocons trying desperately to hang onto power the same way Democrats are post-Trump 2016.
 
We need to keep something in mind.

The gun issue has transcended guns.

I know people who, if they are not gun owners themselves, would nevertheless be favorably disposed toward gun ownership.

But, they see the organized gun lobby (mostly the NRA) lined up to oppose everything else that they might be for. By extension, they see gun owners as their social enemies.(It's all about the owners, not the guns themselves.)

We have polarized ourselves into two opposing "tribes," and guns are only a part of that.

Beto O'Rourke, with his outrageous gun proposals, is trying to establish his bona fides among the "tribe" that votes in Democratic primaries. (There was originally some question whether he belonged to that tribe, based on geography and his congressional record.) It doesn't matter to him if, like Samson, he brings down the whole temple in doing so.

This Beto controversy has the potential to throw the whole election to the Republicans next year. (As I've said many times, the election will be decided in a few states of the Rust Belt and Sun Belt, states with many gun owners.) It depends on whether wiser heads among the Democrats can dig their way out of this mess.
 
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He’s just mad because as a felon he’s prohibited from owning them!
He is not a felon. His family is rich, so he was not convicted.
His motivation is much like his Senate run, it's all about donations. So, much of this is pandering to the extreme side of the base, to generate more donations to put in his pocket after he is sent packing after they narrow the field.

He is not helping the (d) cause, as they want to project a more moderate image t sort out who gets the nomination. The other candidates are also very leary of losing their own gun-owning base, in either primaries or the general election.

If Bobby Frank gets a Cabinet selection, he's ahead, since he's a member of the oppressor class, but, he'll be happy to just have the money and wander away, too.
 
This Beto controversy has the potential to throw the whole election to the Republicans next year.
I believe that potential became actual when he said "Hell yes, we are taking your AR15s and AK47s", exposing the underlying true intent of the antis to ban/confiscate guns.

And when the question was posed if he would get rid of all semi-auto firearms (and it doesn't matter who asked the question), response was he is open to that. :eek:
He is not helping the (d) cause, as they want to project a more moderate image t sort out who gets the nomination. The other candidates are also very leary of losing their own gun-owning base, in either primaries or the general election.
With these words burned hard into voters' minds (It's too late to "unhear" them ;)), as we head towards the 2016 election, any attempt by the candidates to discuss commonsense/reasonable gun control will be reaffirmed by the underlying ultimate intent of the antis - gun ban/confiscation.

And gun owning voters who want to keep their guns will directly look to the future Supreme Court bench make up to ensure the protection of the Second Amendment and vote accordingly.
 
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