Registered vs Combat Magnum vs Combat Masterpiece

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I may sound like a complete buffoon for asking what may be an obvious answer, bit I'd like clarification on something. The S&W Registered Magnum was the original .357 Magnum, what would become the S&W Mdl 27, with the Mdl 28 Highway Patrolman being an "economy" version of the Mdl 27 ? The S&W Combat Magnum would become the Mdl 19, the peace officer's "dream sidearm" ? And how does the Combat Masterpiece relate to the above ?
 
Back in the day before model numbers were made known, S&W revolvers were named. The K-Framed guns were K-22. K-32, and K-38, the numbers indicating the caliber, the K- indicating the "K" frame. The target versions were all designated "Masterpiece" signifying they were specially fitted target guns. With the coming of the 4" barrel and Baughman front sights, they became "Combat Masterpiece" guns. With the Model 19 it became the "Combat Magnum" and with the "L" frame it became the "Distinguished Combat Magnum."

Incidentally, the older model numbers were not generally known outside of the factory. They used the frame size plus the bore diameter, and a suffix "T" if target sighted. The S&W .44 Model 1950 Military model was N-430, while the .44 Model 1950 Target model was N-430-T.

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"Distinguished" probably from the PPC Distinguished match, pretty much the stock gun category. Full length underlug a la Python gives the muzzle weight a target shooter wants.
 
Before model numbers were introduced in 1957, they had to call the different revolver variations something to distinguish the different models. K38 Target Masterpiece conjures up a certain mental image of a superb firearm that will make me a better shooter., and K38 tells the frame size & caliber.. Highway Patrolman gives you the image of a beefy, no nonsense duty sized weapon......M28, not so much.
 
The Registered Magnum eventually became the M27, an N frame. (.357 Magnum)
The Combat Magnum eventually became the M19, a K frame. (.357 Magnum)
The Combat Masterpiece K-38 eventually became the M15, also a K frame. (.38 Special)

Those are the 3 you asked about. Someone mentioned the M28 above. The M28 prior to 1957 was the Highway Patrolman. It's nickname is/was the poor man's Registered Magnum, like the M27 an N frame .357 Magnum.

IMO they are all great!
 
According to the S&W standard catalog the Distinguished Combat Magnum is the 686.
I believe the 586 is a Combat Magnum.

According to the Standard Catalog of S&W (4th Ed.), the 586 is the Distinguished Combat Magnum, the 686 is the Distinguished Combat Magnum Stainless.
 
Before model numbers were introduced in 1957, they had to call the different revolver variations something to distinguish the different models. K38 Target Masterpiece conjures up a certain mental image of a superb firearm that will make me a better shooter., and K38 tells the frame size & caliber.. Highway Patrolman gives you the image of a beefy, no nonsense duty sized weapon......M28, not so much.

I've always found some of the older "named" firearms to be quite fascinating. A Colt "Woodsman" or a S&W "Heavy Duty" just sounds cool, for lack or a better way to describe it.

Others have already touched on the S&W frame sizes and naming conventions. It can be both simple and confusing. At one point I had a Combat Masterpiece AND a Model 15 in my accumulation. The only real difference was the 25 years or so of engineering/production changes that had occurred. I've also owned a Model 19, and the most noticeable difference between it and the 15 is the longer cylinder and heavier barrel with the ejector shroud. In the family there is also a Highway Patrolman and a 586. For the record, I never refer to the post-1957 guns by anything but the model number and maybe dash-number change.

One interesting note: with the Combat Magnum/Model 19, S&W lengthened the cylinders to accommodate the .357 Magnum round. You'll find that the N-frame guns, the 357 Magnum, Highway Patrolman and subsequent M27/M28 have shorter cylinders than the K-frame guns. Thus making the smaller guns more suitable for long/heavy .357 bullets in .357 cases.
 
I don't have an old catalog, are the fixed sight L frames models 581/681 also Distinguished Combat Magnums?

"Registered Magnum" is not a formal factory model name, it is a collectors' term to distinguish the 1935-1939 .357 Magnum from the 1940-1942 gun known in those circles as the "unregistered Magnum." The revolver is the .357 Magnum, period.
 
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The Registered Magnums were custom made guns. Built on the large N frame, 23 different barrel lengths were available, six choices for front sights, Blue, nickel, and engraved finishes, Service or Magna grips, optional hump backed hammer, optional grip adapter. Each revolver was sighted in at the factory with the ammunition of the customer's choosing, for any distance out to 200 meters. A registration number was stamped on the yoke cut of the frame, and each customer received a matching certificate. The first one was completed in 1935 and sent to J. Edgar Hoover. The Second one went to Phil Sharpe who had worked with Winchester to develop the cartridge.

The Registered Magnum was conceived as a deluxe revolve, selling for $60, $15 more than anything in the S&W line. This was at the height of the Great Depression, so the $15 premium was a lot of money.

Despite the cost, S&W was overwhelmed with orders. The factory could only complete about 120 revolvers per month. By 1938, after completing 5,500 Registered Magnums the practice of registering the revolvers and stamping a registration number on them was discontinued. After that time, the name of the revolver was simply The 357 Magnum and they were produced up until 1941, when production was stopped for war time production. The 357 Magnum was reintroduced in 1948 with the latest internal hammer block, and a short throw hammer. Barrel lengths were standardized at 3 1/2". 5", 6", 6 1/2", and 8 3/8". In 1957 the name of The 357 Magnum was changed to the Model 27.

One of the features retained in the Model 27 from the original 357 Magnum was the checkering on the top strap, rear sight, and barrel rib. Seen at the bottom of this photo. A Model 19 is at the top of the photo.

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Many law enforcement agencies were interested in The 357 Magnum revolver, but the cost was prohibitive. After receiving many inquiries, S&W president C. R. Hellstrom met with company engineers and it was determined that by doing away with the cosmetic beauty of the revolver, an affordable 357 Magnum revolver could be built on the same N frame that would retain the smooth lockwork of the Model 27. The first run of The Highway Patrolman revolvers was produced in 1954 and it was cataloged in 1955. A brushed blue finish was applied to the outside of the revolver, and the top strap and barrel rib were given a matte finish. In 1957 when S&W went over to the model number system, The Highway Patrolman became the Model 28.

This Model 28 exhibits the matte finish on the top strap. In point of fact, the finish of the Model 28 varied over the years, sometimes it was almost as polished as a Model 27, other times it was a non-reflective matte finish.

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For what it's worth, I have a copy of a S&W circular from 1958 listing the price of the Model 27 as $120 and the Model 28 at $85, $90 with target stocks. The Model 29 (44 Magnum) is going for $140 in this circular.




In 1954 C.R. Hellstrom asked Bill Jordan what he considered an ideal law enforcement officer's gun would be. Jordan replied that it should be a 357 Magnum revolver built on the K (medium) frame with a 4" heavy barrel and an extractor shroud like on The 357 Magnum. S&W conducted tests throughout 1954 and into 1955 using various steels and heat treatment processes. S&W produced the first 357 Combat Magnums in 1955. It featured a 4" barrel with a Baughman front sight. The first one went to Bill Jordan for testing. In 1957 The Combat Magnum became the Model 19. A six inch barrel was offered in 1963, and later still a 2 1/2" barrel was offered.

My 1958 catalog lists the price of the 357 Combat Magnum at $100.

I bought my Model 19-3 in 1975. It cost $125 at the time.

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Interestingly enough, although 'combat' in S&W language usually means a 4" barrel with a Baughman front sight, the paper work that came with my Model 19 with its 6" barrel and Patridge front sight clearly refers to it as a Combat Magnum.

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The glossary at the back of The Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson defines Masterpiece as "a hand ejector K frame design with adjustable sights, introduced about 1946, including click adjustable micrometer sights, short fast action, and built in anti-backlash trigger."

The first Masterpiece introduced was the K-22 Masterpiece (Pre-war, K-22 2nd Model) which had a short production run in 1940 and 1941 with only 1067 manufactured. This is not quite the same gun as the earlier K-22 Outdoorsman, which did not feature the modern click adjustable rear sight.

This K-22 Outdoorsman has the older style rear sight.

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This postwar K-22 Masterpiece has the modern click adjustable rear sight. It also has a narrow barrel rib.

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This K-22 Combat Masterpiece combines the 'Masterpiece' features of the 4" barrel with the Baughman 'quick draw' front sight. Of course no one would carry a 22 into combat, it is just a name.

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The Masterpiece label was also applied to the K-32 and K-38 target revolvers.

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One of the selling points of the Masterpiece series was they were all built to weigh the same. So the 22, or 32, or 38 should feel no different in the hands of the shooter. The weight of the loaded revolvers did vary slightly.
K-22 Masterpiece: 38 1/2 ounces loaded.
K-32 Masterpiece: 36 3/4 ounces loaded.
K-38 Masterpiece: 36 ounces.


In 1957, the K-22 became the Model 17.

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The K-38 became the Model 14. Visible behind the trigger is the little piece that prevents the trigger from over traveling and makes the trigger an anti-backlash trigger.

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According to the Standard Catalog of S&W (4th Ed.), the 586 is the Distinguished Combat Magnum, the 686 is the Distinguished Combat Magnum Stainless.

You are correct. I was going on memory. Upon consultation of my copy of THE BOOK, I see that I was mistaken.
Every S&W fan should own a copy of "The Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson 4th Edition".
 
This is a heck of a lot of info to process... gimme a century or two, and I might get through half of it, heh. I do enjoy the history though, confusing though it may be at times.
 
Every S&W fan should own a copy of "The Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson 4th Edition."

I actually prefer the 3rd edition. Much easier to find the information I want. I seldom open my copy of the 4th edition.
I also have both the 3rd and 4th Editions and while the 4th Edition obviously has updated information on the newer revolvers I also think the 3rd Edition is easier to navigate. Unless I need information not in the 3rd Edition I usually grab it over the 4th Edition.
 
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