Weird primer

Primer Mystery for sure. Did you get it from a store or from an online order? Some stores allow returns but I am not sure they are supposed to restock them as new. Not up to par on the laws of reloading supplies and all.

Where did you buy the primers? Was it Retail or a gun show or something?

Wait until your my age getting down to look isn’t worth the effort it takes to get back up.

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(don't make me do that, it's hard to get back up)

One odd primer that I had to pitch doesn't bother me, but a whole sleeve missing out of the unopened case is a little disconcerting.

I only bought this one case because I couldn't get Winchesters at the time.

I never really like CCI primers, there to hard to punch back out of the case.
They stick on the punch pin and it pulls them back into the primer pocket so I can't remove the case without taking the shell plate off my press.

I've never had any other companies primers do that.

If anyone knows of a way to stop that, I'm all ears.

My RCBS 45colt die does that with CCI primers. I have to size it, rotate the case, then size again for the old primer to pop out. It drives me crazy.

Good idea walkalong. Take a file and flatten the tip a bit perhaps?

I knew someone did.

In that thread I said:

I always blamed that on the punch pin sneaking up past the anvil and the anvil pushing sideways on it keeping the primer from dropping off, or it misses the anvil and isn't long enough to push the primer out due to the cup of the primer stretching out into a cone shape.
I pick up a lot of Federal range brass the they do this a lot.
I did some experiments in a single stage press trying to figure out what was tying up my LNL-AP and found that the punch pin WAS missing the anvil and punch pin was stretching the face of the primer cup out to a cone shape and not pushing the primer clear out of the case due to not hitting the anvil.

I dropped the primer punch stem out as far as I could without the nut bottoming out in the case. That took care of almost all of it for me.

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I also found out later I had a damaged pin in that particular die after that.

With Winchester primers I never had a problem punching them out, with Federals a few, they would stretch out and look like a cone head. With the CCI case of primers I bought a few months ago I can't use my old Pro1000 to deprime my .357mag cases because I can't get more than three cases through it and the press is jammed tight. I have to dismantle it, and clean the primer anvils out of it or the primer that tried to roll up under the shell plate out of it to run again. I just deprimmed some Geco .357mag brass and they ran through the pro 1000 with no trouble at all.

I can decap Winchester primers as fast as I can fill the tubes on the Pro1000 and do it all day long, and its the most finicky press I have.

On my LNL-AP I use a universal de-priming die for 9mm range pickup mix, it has the spring loaded pin and it worked ok on CCI until the spring broke.

I will take a look at the deprimming pins in all my deprimming dies. I have three presses and they all three suffer from this with CCI primers, the pro 1000 the far worst.
That's with 32, 38spl, 357, 41 mag and 9mm.

They load really nice, probably smoother than Winchesters and Remingtons due to their nickle plating, they just stick when trying to punch them back out. I just have not had any trouble over the last 25 years with Winchester primers, after I quit using CCIs the first time, and know I buy a case of CCIs and the problems start again.

After I use the last two and 1/2 sleeves I won't have any more, so the problem for me will go away.

beeenbag said:

It’s the primer that sets off the OCD of having an odd number of loaded rounds, or an odd number of remaining primers. Either way, it’s enough to keep a reloader up at night.

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BTDT.

I hate that "one" empty space in the 100 round plastic ammo boxes.....and/or that one or two remaining bullets in the otherwise empty box of 100/250.

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On my LNL-AP I use a universal de-priming die for 9mm range pickup mix, it has the spring loaded pin and it worked ok on CCI until the spring broke.

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I've had that happen with the spring supplied. I found that one of the sprigs used in a AR15 is the right size, just needing shortened. Once I did that the spring does not flatten out like the factory did. On a tight primer it will launch it one it clears. Have not had any problems since.

Walkalong said:

It is definitely seriously annoying when primers stick to the pin, so whatever cures it for you, I get it.

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It' s not like I'm going to run out and buy some other brand of primers now, I have like 30k of Winchester, Federal, Remington's, and Fiocchi primers in house.
I'll wait for these to be gone and start using something else.
I'll still check my punch pins, I appreciate good advise.

I hate to be "that blue KoolAid guy", but I've never had any problems with used primers sucking back into a primer pocket with functional Dillon sizing/decapping dies.

Over 100,000s of cases.

When the spring or clip on a die fails, primers will suck back, but not when they're in good order.

I assume that Dillon dies will work on other progressive presses...

I'm also a blue koolaid guy but I have this problem on my 650 using Dillon, Redding, RCBS and Widden dies with Federal and CCI primers. There's got to be a reason for it

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I agree. It has to be something to do with the way they are made or what their made out of. Federals are super soft, everyone knows that. I know CCIs fall apart a lot easier than most of the other brands when they are being punched out. That's why I can't deprime them on my old Pro 1000. CCIs jam the crap out it.

The anvil stays in place with the Winchesters when their being punched out so they all deprime in the pro1000 with no problem.

That's the only thing I've noticed that's different.

CCI has always been my favorite primer brand. I've had fewer issues with them than any other brand, although issues with any brand have been very few. You should contact CCI and let them know about this.