1911 recomendation and experiences

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Jim Rau said:
What is your beer choice???:D Thank you for agreeing with me on the gun thing!!!:)
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Karbachi Crawford Bock and Maui Coconut Porter are my go to beers at the casa

I wasn't necessarily agreeing with you either. Except insomuch as a cheap gun will fire a bullet in the same manner as a $100,000.00+ one will. I personally have zero interest in bargain bin guns period. However, very much appreciate the role they fill in the market place.
 
Rembrandt said:
Comparisons of 1911's tend to devolve into "price shaming" by those whose purchase is primarily based on price and secondarily on performance or quality. Rare when quality can be picked up at average prices. Yet everyone wants to be perceived as a wise consumer diligent of a good value for their money.
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It doesnt even have to be 1911's specifically
 
Jim Rau said:
No, it is not 'conjecture' as I have had contact with MANY people (over 45+ years in LE and as a trainer of both LE and civilians), both in LE and civilians who 'carry', and you are VERY DIFFERENT than the VAST MAJORITY of them when you said you shoot 200+ rounds a week. Just reality, not conjecture.;)
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Sorry, but unless you have contacted >5% of the gun-carrying population in both groups in this country (the higher the % sample, the greater the outcome reliability) in the last year or three, your opinion is CONJECTURE.

I just got back from my weekly shoot, and my indoor range w/ 12-stations is normally full of shooters, no matter what day or time I go there. My conjectural opinion is that lots of people who carry, shoot on a regular basis (i.e. once a month or more).
 
Ks5shooter said:
1911 recomendation and experiences

Looking to buy a full sized 1911. I want to buy a good one once. What do you like and why.
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I like 1911s that reliably feeds all different bullets types I use and produce tight groups on paper - Sig/RIA 1911s I have shot reliably fed SWC/HP ammunition from day one and continue to produce tight groups on paper.

I like 1911s that don't break - My Sig 1911 with 10K+ rounds and friend's RIA 1911 with 8K+ rounds have not broken any parts.

I like 1911s that comes with lifetime warranty - Both Sig/RIA 1911s come with lifetime warranty.

SIG SAUER warrants ... firearm ... for the lifetime of the original purchaser - https://www.sigsauer.com/support/warranty/

Rock Island Armory’s warranty covers its firearms and parts. We offer Limited Lifetime Warranty on our products for their intended purpose - https://armscor.com/support-center/warranty/
Ks5shooter said:
So Im going with ... Springfield RO Elite operator.
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Springfield Armory - This Limited Warranty will last and be in effect during in which YOU, the original retail purchaser, owns the product - https://www.springfield-armory.com/resources/warranty-information/

Ed Brown ... effective April 10, 2007, all Ed Brown firearms include a legal written limited lifetime warranty as well. We are the only high end 1911 manufacturer to our knowledge who offers a legal written lifetime warranty on firearms - https://www.edbrown.com/faq/#aaa3
 
Ks5shooter said:
Kinda fits all my needs I think .Rail on bottom for light as HD. Looks like it will run well in local competition if I decide to. Anyone have one?
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I had the same gun, just in the Range Officer Operator version between the RO Elite came out. It was a fantastic gun! It ran like a sewing machine and had crazy soft recoil. It was my hands-down my wife's favorite gun to shoot. I got in a bind and needed some cash and I ended up selling it. The RO Elite Operator is on my list to buy once I get some funds built back up again. My one complaint with the version I had was that I didn't like the parkerized finish. The RO Elite has a much better finish. I think you will be very happy with that choice!
 
WVsig said:
It is funny because there is no best. The best is a completely subjective statement based on the opinions, experience, intentions and desires of the end user. .
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Which is why we have threads where a fair number of experienced and knowledgable express their opinions.
Sorry you've had problems with your Les Baer, but if you wanted a magwell then you should have bought the pistol with one, or ordered one from Les. Go to the SHOT show and talk with him. He is very approachable and listens carefully.

You might be right about the blueing though. Once I drank some tequila and squeezing a lemon I didn't realize that a drop of lemon juice flew 6' and landed on my Thunder Ranch. It left a distinctive clear dot.
Oh well, never planning to sell it anyway.

I also have a compact Springfield 1911 in .40 that rarely goes through a clip without jamming. I keep it as a training tool. That is my "intention and desire".
 
have shot my Springfield loaded 9mm in single stack USPSA for 10,000 rounds and have not had a gun related failure
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Yep no issues with my Springfield Loaded 1911 in 9mm, 30K rounds, replaced recoil and firing pin springs/normal wear and tear.
 
"In general the 1911 in 9mm is harder to execute properly. Here is a quote from 1911tuner AKA John Travis on the subject. He knows his 1911s more than most of us. I don't agree with him on a lot of other subjects but I tend to agree with him on this one. I own 2 1911s in 9mm currently that are good to go but I have cycled through others that never ran right. I know many dedicated 1911 shooter who can get them to run right for them. The window for 100% proper function is smaller in the 9mm caliber 1911 than any other. Now when they run right they are one of the softest shooting most enjoyable guns on the planet but they would not be my first choice for a defensive handgun".

Please , I'd like to explore this a bit further. My occasional CC now is a .357/sp101. Aside with getting internally filthy with all the lead reloads I put through it, it shoots very well and i'm confident with it. But I can't stand the grips; reminds me of my 2nd grade cap pistol. It gets lost in my huge hands. At first I accepted this but it now annoys me and i'm ready to move on. I also own a 1911 .45 Springfield that also shoots flawlessly with the thousands of reloads I have fed it, and it has never needed service. And, it fits me right, to the point that i'm considering CC with it. UNLESS, I can be convinced, aside from the above quote, that a 1911 platform in 9mm can be considered reliable for CC.
I would think if 1911/9mm was such a problem, the manufacturers would have dumped it by now. Are the current issues any better nowadays? By better I mean I don't want to be fooling around with feeding/jamming/magazine issues etc etc as I didn't/don't have these issues in the .45. I'm considering a decently priced all steel unit such as Ruger, Springfield or Remington, 4/5''. Would like to here your comments, and specifically from those who might be carrying a 9mm 1911. If not the original "1911" platform, what about those made specifically for the 9mm that look like it as mentioned by the original poster? Thanks
 
Koroner said:
Which is why we have threads where a fair number of experienced and knowledgable express their opinions.
Sorry you've had problems with your Les Baer, but if you wanted a magwell then you should have bought the pistol with one, or ordered one from Les. Go to the SHOT show and talk with him. He is very approachable and listens carefully.

You might be right about the blueing though. Once I drank some tequila and squeezing a lemon I didn't realize that a drop of lemon juice flew 6' and landed on my Thunder Ranch. It left a distinctive clear dot.
Oh well, never planning to sell it anyway.

I also have a compact Springfield 1911 in .40 that rarely goes through a clip without jamming. I keep it as a training tool. That is my "intention and desire".
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My TRS pretty much runs perfectly. There was some initial chattering of the barrel link when I first got it which gauged the inside of the dust cover. It is purely cosmetic and I polished it out threw some cold blue on it and moved on. It is not that I have had problems with my Baer it is that it would not make my top 5 1911 makers. It might make the top 10. He is a very good small format semi-custom maker.

Sorry but I disagree with your assessment of Les the man. Everyone I have ever talked with about issues they had with their Les Baer pistol and there are people who have had issues all to a man or woman say that Les was a PITA to deal with. The running joke about their CS and warranty repair is Les telling you nothing is wrong with the pistol shoot another 500 rounds. Again I am not saying that Les Baer pistols are not good. I certainly am not selling mine but the idea that they are a best as you declared does not pass the sniff test.
 
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Jim Rau said:
Because I have been in several shoot outs, and I train others in Basic Armed Self defense (civilians), and still actively train LE, so correct me if I am wrong, that is what happens when 'we' use a firearm to defend ourselves and others from criminals who 'put us in fear for our lives'. So when you talk about self defense, you are talking about training for a 'shoot out', are you not????:confused:
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Im just curious because you have mentioned shoot outs in almost every other post in this thread.
 
LiveLife said:
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Ed Brown ... effective April 10, 2007, all Ed Brown firearms include a legal written limited lifetime warranty as well. We are the only high end 1911 manufacturer to our knowledge who offers a legal written lifetime warranty on firearms - https://www.edbrown.com/faq/#aaa3
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Somewhere on ArfCom there is a rather lengthy thread about a guy who bought one of these lifetime warrantied pistols and his efforts to have it repaired. It wasn't pretty. They made him pay to look at it and repair it. That ain't warranty to me.

Maybe a lower end 1911 with a warranty would have been a better purchase??
 
1MoreFord said:
Somewhere on ArfCom there is a rather lengthy thread about a guy who bought one of these lifetime warrantied pistols and his efforts to have it repaired.
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Definitely not wading into that cesspool to try and find the thread. I suppose it depends on why exactly the person sent it back.

I've seen some of these high end 1911s go back to the mothership for some pretty ridiculous reasons. I.e.microscopic flaws in finish, etc. Stuff I would have never noticed nor cared about. That said, EB did go through a short spell of galling issues on their SS guns.
 
Kevin Rohrer said:
Sorry, but unless you have contacted >5% of the gun-carrying population in both groups in this country (the higher the % sample, the greater the outcome reliability) in the last year or three, your opinion is CONJECTURE.

I just got back from my weekly shoot, and my indoor range w/ 12-stations is normally full of shooters, no matter what day or time I go there. My conjectural opinion is that lots of people who carry, shoot on a regular basis (i.e. once a month or more).
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WHAT EVER!;) How long have you been in instructor/trainer?? Some people will 'argue' just for the sake of argument!:p
 
tarosean said:
Definitely not wading into that cesspool to try and find the thread.
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Heh heh, I was beginning to think I'd accidentally wandered in there while perusing this thread.
tarosean said:
That said, EB did go through a short spell of galling issues on their SS guns.
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As did Dan Wesson, everyone's favorite production 1911 du jour.
Jim Rau said:
WHAT EVER!;) How long have you been in instructor/trainer?? Some people will 'argue' just for the sake of argument!
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Just now noticing this, Jim?
 
Ks5shooter said:
Looking to buy a full sized 1911. I want to buy a good one once. What do you like and why.
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Nature Boy said:
I’m just here for the pictures :thumbup:
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Full size GSG 1911 22LR (Same as Sig 1911 22LR) and it must be a good one since made in Germany :D

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And bigger brother railed Sig 1911 XO - External extractor makes it even better - BTW, made in USA ;)

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