What happened to the CMP Garands?

Probably sold out.

Lots of demand, lack of guns. Had one that I bought for $450. Sold it five years later due to divorce for $750. When Obama was in office there no imports allowed. So demand went through the roof. If you want one, buy it when you can. There aren't that many left to be imported.

Can't say I'm surprised. Only so many and then they are gone. Like the short run 1911's they had.

I'm still seeing them in stock on the CMP website. Where are you looking?

Yup. CMP has plenty. Service Grades are $750.

There were only around 6 million Garands ever built. Even if every single one of them survived the many wars they were used in, they still represent a tiny fraction of all guns available. I figure somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million survive today and I recognize that I am likely being very generous with that number.

Are you looking at the CMP website? They have Field Grade, Service Grade, Special Grade along with Sniper models available for sale right now. This is about the same as it has been for quite awhile.

I came late to the party but last I checked CMP still has Garands - but it's the carbines they don't have (except for a few on their auction side - for more money than I have....). Go here for the last report before virus stuff at their south store....
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=260387

What happened?

CMP being a civilian organization didn't follow the original DCM's mandate of one gun of each model or version per buyer's lifetime.

That, is what happened to the supply. Simply put, if they are out - they ran out of rebuildable parts for complete guns.

I get it from their point of view but I don't have to like it.

Todd.

They're still coming up for retail, slowly. For an explanation, check out this brand new video, from a presentation at the September 2019 Garand Collectors Assn. Convention by CMP's director Mark Johnson (assuming you have the patience for the page to load -- slow!):

https://thegca.org/cmps-mark-johnson-speaks-at-gca-convention/

There's always an attempt by Garand "collectors" to pretend that there's some sort of shortage. There never actually is. There were 5 million of the darn things made. Some have been scrapped or captured by hostile nations, but the vast majority are still out there. Instead you've got people buying insane number of rifles from the CMP in violation of at least the spirit and probably the letter of the law. This is a concerted effort to prevent the CMP from stocking so they can increase prices on the secondary market.

The issue here is criminal behavior by the CMP and a small number of their customers, not any sort of shortage.

Even with that, the vast majority of grades have at least some receiver type in stock. So let's not get TOO excited.

Remember as well that those gun sales (to whoever) are the funding mechanism for all the other stuff the CMP does... As a guy who'd love to have a carbine in good condition but will never be a "collector" in any sense of the word - I do hesitate a bit when I see collectors that have multiple carbines that aren't ever likely to hit the market again until their owner is no longer with us. All of this is just part of our second amendment freedoms - and I wouldn't change a bit of it...

Now if I'd only acted and bought one 30 years ago when they were cheap, cheap, etc.

total recoil said:

Shopping for another Garand today,...

Click to expand...

Where?

I bought a select grade several years ago. It was completely rebuilt with all Springfield parts, new barrel and stock. It had the milled trigger guard on it. I don’t remember what I paid, but it is a great shooter. If you want one, get it. You won’t regret it. It is one of the most fun rifles you can own. There is nothing else like a m1 Garand.

If you want a CMP Garand there is a guy on GB parting them out non stop, and you can buy it one part at a time. Of course you will be putting his kids through college, but the CMP doesn't care.

My Brother and I drove to the CMP North (Port Clinton Ohio) store a while back and he bought one off the rack There were probably 50 or so of various grades on the racks but we were told that what they had was not being restocked TEMPORARILY as they were moving to another location. (Still Camp Perry but another building) The stock on hand was being moved but they weren't unpacking more until the move was done. Gave a good price on ammo too so they didn't have to move it. I'm not sure how long they were closed for but that might be part of your problem.

The CMP is a great option and they have been gone over by a qualified armorer.
I've found mine to be an enjoyable purchase, every time they go to a range it brings smiles to both young and old shooters, one of the big problems is lack of cheap ammo now, I was fortunate enough to find some before the price went up.

mshootnit said:

If you want a CMP Garand there is a guy on GB parting them out non stop, and you can buy it one part at a time. Of course you will be putting his kids through college, but the CMP doesn't care.

Click to expand...

That's a shame to hear and while I generally applaud entrepreneurism, self-reliance and individuality, I still think that - if it is true/accurate - he should be locked out in any reasonable way from purchasing them from CMP.

Todd.

A couple from the CMP.

lemaymiami said:

Remember as well that those gun sales (to whoever) are the funding mechanism for all the other stuff the CMP does...

Click to expand...

Well, sort of. They've salted away a large amount of money already. There's no need to sell the rifles in bulk to a small number of dealers largely to be parted out, but that's what has happened. Even the nominal 8 rifle/year limit (which should be 2 per model per life for individuals) has not stopped the problem as you can enlist others to buy THEIR 8/year etc.

Given that CMP is selling government surplus to fund a quasi-governmental activity, they should be charging market price not just on the auction guns but also the basic graded rifles. Not doing so is effectively transferring money from the taxpayer to the cheats. And they should be following the mandate of their incorporation to improve civilian marksmanship, not to fund scalpers.

It's a scam, and the CMP should be ashamed to be involved.

Glad to hear CMP is still going. I figured they would be with all the rebuildable stock that came in from the Philippines not that long ago. I recall reading about it and IIRC it involved a large amount of M-1's. Anyone recall how many the CMP got from there ?

22250Rem said:

Glad to hear CMP is still going. I figured they would be with all the rebuildable stock that came in from the Philippines not that long ago. I recall reading about it and IIRC it involved a large amount of M-1's. Anyone recall how many the CMP got from there ?

Click to expand...

86,000 when they first came from the Philippines back in 2018. There is a Youtube video all about it.

Join the Garand Collectors Assoc. and you'll have all kinds of info about the M1 Rifle sent in their quarterly published news letter. It only costs $25.00 a year.