Shooting problems for a right-handed shooter who is left-eye dominant?

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I am rt eye/rt hand, but, due to the fact I cannot rotate my right forearm, I shoot longguns lefty and handguns righty, I simply had to learn to use my left eye to sight rifles, and yet I still shoot handguns withy right eye, and even keep both eyes open shooting handguns.

My point is its all learned, just teach him to shoot lefty.
 
I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I shoot both handgun and long gun right handed. It's never been an issue.

Is it an issue for surgeons or dentists? For machinists or auto mechanics? Nope. So why fret over it here? It's only an issue for trainers who have little experience of the world. About 1/4 to 1/3 of the world's population is cross eye dominant. Most don't know it because it's never an issue even when doing delicate work. It's a bigger issue if you're left handed.

With hand gun I focus through the dominant eye. My stance and and a slight tilt of the head do the rest.

With long gun I close the left eye while looking through a scope or over peep sights. If shooting at a range for a couple of hours I may use a blinder over the left eye to avoid fatigue in that eye.

It's never been an issue and normally isn't until a person makes it one. Usually the person who makes it an issue is the person who first trains you. They learn you are cross eye dominant and they say, "Well that's an issue but I have a solution to that problem." But they don't cause they don't know what they are talking about.

"But you have to keep both eyes open". What, all the time? No you don't. That useless "tactical" idea is fairly recent.

No one has to learn to shoot with the weak hand because they are cross eye dominant. Unless they only have one eye, or one good eye but that's a whole 'nother issue.
 
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That’s my situation. Like some others, I shoot long guns left handed, and handguns right handed.
 
I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I shoot both handgun and long gun right handed. It's never been an issue.

First of all, it depends how bad your vision is in your weak eye versus your strong eye. Not everyone is the same and no one solution will work for all. To say just deal with it is not the correct answer. I have trained enough people while in the Army to know that it does make a difference.

Is it an issue for surgeons or dentists? For machinists or auto mechanics? Nope. So why fret over it here? It's only an issue for trainers who have little experience of the world. About 1/4 to 1/3 of the world's population is cross eye dominant. Most don't know it because it's never an issue even when doing delicate work. It's a bigger issue if you're left handed.

It's not always the same and is comparing apples to oranges here. I am a retired machinist/tool and die maker.

With hand gun I focus through the dominant eye. My stance and and a slight tilt of the head do the rest.

Most of us that are cross eye dominant do the same thing. Use strong hand and strong eye for handguns.

With long gun I close the left eye while looking through a scope or over peep sights. If shooting at a range for a couple of hours I may use a blinder over the left eye to avoid fatigue in that eye.

You can have a dominant eye even when vision is the same in each eye. In that case, you can train your non dominant eye to focus on the target. Now if you are bench shooting, then cover the one eye. Use what method works the best for you.

It's never been an issue and normally isn't until a person makes it one. Usually the person who makes it an issue is the person who first trains you. They learn you are cross eye dominant and they say, "Well that's an issue but I have a solution to that problem." But they don't cause they don't know what they are talking about.

It is proven that if one eye is a lot stronger than the other to shoot using your dominant eye even if it is on your weak side.

"But you have to keep both eyes open". What, all the time? No you don't. That useless "tactical" idea is fairly recent.

This is incorrect. I have read enough Army training manuals along with training troops to know that this has been standard procedure for a long time, at least since late Vietnam.

No one has to learn to shoot with the weak hand because they are cross eye dominant. Unless they only have one eye, or one good eye but that's a whole 'nother issue.


Not trying to argue here. But one size does NOT fit all. That is why a good trainer helps to see what will help a new shooter do better. They can see if the newbie is having problems focusing on the target and make adjustments as needed.
 
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I'm right handed, right eye dominant. When I was young I was taught to close my left eye when shooting (a la Sgt. York). Started working on shooting both eyes open a few years ago and now that my right eye has become mostly useless it's a good thing I did. Now I'm working on learning to shoot long guns left handed since glasses have been no help.
Point being, if he hasn't had time to develop bad habits, your road is a lot easier. Have the person learn to shoot from both sides.
 
Sometimes arguing, or a debate, can be very useful.

"First of all, it depends how bad your vision is in your weak eye versus your strong eye. Not everyone is the same and no one solution will work for all. To say just deal with it is not the correct answer. I have trained enough people while in the Army to know that it does make a difference."

That is a mistake. What you describe above is an abnormal situation. A person who has one eye substantially weaker than the other has a vision problem. We are not discussing that here. We are discussing shooters who have normal vision and normal limbs.

The problem begins by approaching CED as if it were a problem to be solved, it is not. This leads folks to clump it with persons who do have vision issues and who may require special training.

Being cross eye dominant is not a medical issue any more than being left handed is. It is normal. It requires no special techniques and less adaptation than for a left handed shooter dealing with guns built for right handed people. What makes it an issue is when folks treat it as if it were abnormal, a disadvantage of some sort, and a special problem.

Many trainers were taught to treat CED as if it were a problem to be corrected. They were taught wrong and incorrectly carried on a misguided tradition. Not the first time this has happened in the shooting sports or in the military.

It's generally more challenging to adapt to shooting with ageing eyesight, bi-focals for example, than with CED.
 
Not trying to argue here. But one size does NOT fit all. That is why a good trainer helps to see what will help a new shooter do better. They can see if the newbie is having problems focusing on the target and make adjustments as needed.

Actually I'm not arguing one size fits all. Each person is their own and each student in one manner or the other unique. In post 31 and other posts people mention medical issues which require adaptation. But that is not cross eye dominance.

Cross eye dominance is not a health issue. If a student comes into class and is right handed and right eye dominant should a teacher instruct them to begin shooting by learning to shoot with the weak hand? Should the instructor in long gun begin with teaching them to shoot from the left shoulder?
 
Actually I'm not arguing one size fits all. Each person is their own and each student in one manner or the other unique. In post 31 and other posts people mention medical issues which require adaptation. But that is not cross eye dominance.

Cross eye dominance is not a health issue. If a student comes into class and is right handed and right eye dominant should a teacher instruct them to begin shooting by learning to shoot with the weak hand? Should the instructor in long gun begin with teaching them to shoot from the left shoulder?

The OP asked about cross eye dominance. Yes I think that if one IS cross eye dominant, then they should try to shoot from what ever eye is their dominant even if it is there weak hand. Once they get use to it, they will normally do better. Now if your dominant eye is the same side as your strong hand then that's how you should shoot. Also there is nothing wrong with practicing with your weak side with long guns or pistols. No I am no longer a NRA certified instructor but I was able to get plenty of soldiers to qualify expert and have no problems hitting the 300M target with the peep sights on the M16A1 and A2 by teaching them to use their dominant eye. Not everyone has the same vision in both eyes and should use the strongest eye for best performance.
 
The OP asked about cross eye dominance. Yes I think that if one IS cross eye dominant, then they should try to shoot from what ever eye is their dominant even if it is there weak hand. Once they get use to it, they will normally do better. Now if your dominant eye is the same side as your strong hand then that's how you should shoot. Also there is nothing wrong with practicing with your weak side with long guns or pistols. No I am no longer a NRA certified instructor but I was able to get plenty of soldiers to qualify expert and have no problems hitting the 300M target with the peep sights on the M16A1 and A2 by teaching them to use their dominant eye. Not everyone has the same vision in both eyes and should use the strongest eye for best performance.

I understand your position and unfortunately, as I showed and explained, you are wrong in your central premise.
 
I understand your position and unfortunately, as I showed and explained, you are wrong in your central premise.

No I am not wrong in my premise. Years of experience and actual results are proof positive. Have a nice day since I will not argue with you about this.
 
I am cross eye dominant and I got an eye patch like they use for medical conditions (really big and blocks all light in my left eye). I shoot pretty well with my right eye under those conditions
 
I had this issue many years ago and I got sick of having to hold my pistols way over to the left with my right hand. An erratically ejecting gun also lead to me catching brass in the forehead intermittently.

For two years I forced myself to shoot and dry fire with my right (non-dominant) eye. And after that two years I was then right eye dominant. I did the finger test and confirmed it had changed over.

I relayed this story to a chiropractor I dated who obviously has some neurology background, and she confirmed it is perfectly doable. It's called neuroplasticity.

If he forces himself to shoot with his non-dominant eye long enough, eye dominance can change. Dry firing and deliberately focusing on the front sight with your nondominant eye helps. I'd also suggest using a patch on the dominant eye while shooting rifles with the nondominant. Age might cause it to take more or less time. Some people may not be wired exactly the same either, but in my experience, changing eye dominance is possible.
 
Best would be for him to learn how to shoot left-handed. It will become natural to him after he gets used to it. There are a lot of shooters that are right hand/left eye dominant, including myself. One usually will have better accuracy shooting with their dominant eye versus using the weak eye and covering the dominant eye.

I know others will be along to tell you just the opposite of what I said. I am speaking from personal experience for myself and my one son along with training soldiers to shoot/qualify in the Army.
I am also right-handed but left eye dominant. I have to shoot any rifle or shotgun left-handed. OTOH, I do all of my handgun shooting right-handed; GO FIGURE!
 
Apparently, I had a prenatal stroke that affected my right side - something about being carried for 11 months {my poor mother!) Anyway, this led me to start out left-handed and right-eye-dominant.
When I entered school my teachers forced me into the right-handed mold.
Then, when I was 9 years old, I took an injury to my right eye that requires me to use strong magnification on that eye.
This allows me to use my right hand/right eye when I have my glasses along and I'm prepared.
I usually don't have my glasses on, as it is too disorienting to look through them most of the time - being near-sighted in one eye and functionally far-sighted/astigmatic in the other..
This has led me to practice shooting left-handed using plain safety glasses, as this reproduces my normal state for most emergencies.
 
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I am also right-handed but left eye dominant. I have to shoot any rifle or shotgun left-handed. OTOH, I do all of my handgun shooting right-handed; GO FIGURE!

That is exactly how I shoot. It gives us an advantage when transitioning from rifle to pistol.
 
While it is always preferred to keep both eyes open when shooting, if someone has cross-eye dominance, it usually is impossible with iron sights. Scopes and red-dots, not so much. I shot for several decades before I even heard of cross-eye dominance and learned to shoot open sights by closing my left(dominate) eye. Seems this is a big no-no in the shooting world, You either have to switch which hand you shoot with or quit and go home. I just continue to close my left eye when shooting. I do use a dot on my glasses when using a shotgun for upland game.(basically, the same thing as closing your eye). A young or new to the game shooter, I would try to switch hands before they develop the bad habit of shooting cross-eyed. Old fart like me or someone who has been shooting for a while, I say let them close the off side eye or use a scope.
I too am left eye dominant. I learned to close my left eye as I get on target. It's not correct. But..
If my kids are, they will be taught correctly. With my dad, you learned to shoot right handed, or not at all.
 
Lots of personal experiences stated as facts for other people here. I have to look at my feet and think really hard about how to throw left handed, and people think I should "just learn to shoot left handed". Yeah, not going to happen.

If you cant see well with your non dominant eye you likely have a vision problem, or you are extremely eye dominant like I am hand dominant.
 
As I read through these posts I think opposite eye dominance is common. I'm left handed/left eye. My wife and nephew are left handed/right eye. I do feel that handgun shooters that carry need to learn how to shoot with their opposite hand just incase of an injury to their primary hand/arm ext...

As far as rifles learning to shoot eye dominance is the first option, closing or covering the dominant eye to shoot strong hand is the second.

When teaching kids as a shooting sports instructor we started by finding out the dominant eye and started there, but in some cases we went with strong hand. Practice and trying different things is how we learn and become proficient.
 
While some have been a bit argumentative on this subject, The best solution is to try different methods to see what works best for each person. For a lot of us that are cross eye dominant, using the dominant eye has worked quite well. It also depends on what type of shooting you are doing. Covering your strong eye is fine while bench and stationary precision shooting, it does not work well for other types of shooting sports or for hunters and the military.
 
I am right hand and left eye dominant. About a decade ago I learned of the Center Axis Relock shooting system invented by Paul Castle and based upon his extensive military, law enforcement experience. He also served on security details for high level UK officials including the Queen. Based upon his experiences he created. The CAR system for gun fighting. I took the basic course. The system calls for cross dominant aiming and shooting. It found it to n] e the perfect solution for my cross dominant traits. I shot faster and more accurately using it. It is my method today over a decade later.

it is not a stance. It is a system for gun fighting. That was perfect for me because that is why I owned pistols. I am not a target shooter. And when I go to the range I use only body silhouette targets to assess my center mass accuracy. CAR will make you faster and suitably accurate for self defense at distances up to 50 feet with 25 feet and shorter being more ideal. The system is not complicated but does require study and practice. If you ever watched the John Wick films you have seen its basics as the star actor took that train gun prepping for the movie.

If anyone want to check it out there are some good (and some awful) YT videos. Look for the ones with Paul Castle in them. Or look for Sabre Tactical Training on the Web. It took over the training when Castle died. There are many new-do-wells on YT selling themselves as trainers in the system. So be aware.

Finally CAR is criticized by some who insist that it is not as effective as it is made out to be. Of course most of them are offering traditional training. All I can say is that it is worth exploring if SD is your goal. It made me better and eliminated the problems of cross domination.
 
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