Vern Humphrey
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The idea was, they don't care if the Moisin-Nagant safety works or not -- they got lotsa Russians.
Safety types bolt action rifle poll
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It Is if you got enough finger strength lol. Thankfully when i was shooting a mosin I was also shooting a 70lb recurve some few hundred shots a day...so when I made the mistake of USING it once it wasnt that hard to get off. Scope the thing and youll never get that safety on or off easily. Every time I hunted with that mosin sporter i just loaded and fired, or took the round back out.
Well....ya gotta admit they are pretty positive once engaged LOL.The idea was, they don't care if the Moisin-Nagant safety works or not -- they got lotsa Russians.
GunnyUSMC
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The simple answer is that the safety is obsolete, and it sucks.
But if you know how to use it, it’s pretty easy to engage and disengage. Just place the butt of the rifle in the inside of your elbow and use your thumb and forefinger to work the safety.
Carl N. Brown
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In WHB Smith "Small Arms of the World", Smith listed four ways the Mosin safety kept the firing pin from striking the primer.
Vern Humphrey
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But he didn't list how many Russians were bayonetted while trying to get the safety off.
If I hunted with a Mosin, I'd hunt with an empty chamber, and work the bolt when I saw an elk or deer.
Really I have no preference. Each has its merits. I like being able to lock the bolt. A tang is fastest. The 2 position is either on or off.
I've had tang safeties get bumped while wearing gloves. Because if this is my least favorite.
I have had wing safeties bumped off to Fire. But it is noticeable. I voted Tang but I do like Wing. I would prefer the bolt be locked but that too is not huge for me (the exception to that would be a dangerous game/stopper rifle) otherwise I am okay with a two position Tang, quick, easy.
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My thumb doesn’t tend to be long enough to manipulate any safety other than Rem 700 style without breaking position, but other than that, I’m never really bothered by any safety type. I wouldn’t let a safety be a deciding factor in my firearm purchase - there are several design and manufacture aspects which I find far, far more important.
Gordon
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Wing as it lifts firing pin and blocks it.
GunnyUSMC
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But did he say anything about having to have to remove the rifle butt from your shoulder to be able to work the safety? The Mosin safety works without question, but it doesn’t make it a good safety.
someguy2800
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3 position to the right of the bolt like a Tikka. I really dislike the 3 position Mauser safety.
someguy2800
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I have often wondered how often the Russians actually used the safety. I am placing my bet on not often
GunnyUSMC
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I’ve had people say that they don’t like the Mauser safety. There are a few upgrades when making a sporter rifle from a Mauser action.
One is the Timney - Buehler-style low safety. One click up is safe. Two clicks up is lock.
New England Custom Gun Service offers a Winchester Model 70 style cocking piece, The R-425, in right and left hand.
https://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/proddetail.php?prod=4292
Gordon
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Yes I like the firing pin BLOCKED , the sear or trigger not so much, if it is going to have a safety the firing pin (or Hammer if there is one) needs positive blocking IMHO. Yeah and then I don't trust a safety device
entropy
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Actually , it can be done with practice.Lots of practice.
I prefer the tang safety also, after owning a Ruger 77 and two Savages.
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Mosin style safety
someguy2800
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I have a buehler safety on one of my rifles and don't care for it. Its in an awkward position and difficult to put back on.
Poper
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I voted tang safety. Most shotguns I have used are tang safety. It is a natural position for a safety when wing shooting or bringing a rifle to my shoulder. I would venture to guess I have fired many more thousands of rounds at birds than I have at big game. I like having the safety on my hunting rifle in the same place as the safety on my shotgun.
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someguy2800
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I love tang safety’s on shotguns but don’t care for them on a bolt action because it means it has to be fairly low to clear the bolt and results in a strangely shaped wrist.
The safety on my milsurp 6.5X52mm Carcano carbine my dad bought for me in the 1970's was a pretty positive spring system, and even as an early teenager I had practiced enough with it that I could take the rifle off "safe" pretty quietly. It didn't lock the trigger at all though.
I wasn't really concerned if it made a little noise putting the rifle on "safe".
I wasn't really concerned if it made a little noise putting the rifle on "safe".
Thisisyourcaptin
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3 position winchester here. Have it in my mod 70, three Remington 700s and 3 Mausers. All my long guns are the same. Except my Mosins. But then with the timney triggers I’m covered. I don’t like the fact they don’t have a firing pin or sear block but that’s ok. If it’s loaded it’s pointed down range at hogs or mud.
someguy2800
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That's another thing I appreciate about the tikka safety. 3 position on the right side, and it also blocks the striker with a little block coming up through the bottom of the receiver. Genius design.
That the don't load it till bang time version? Or the cocked, and permalocked version?
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lol both
rbernie
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Sadly, my southpaw middle son (with a normal length thumb) is less enamored of it than I might otherwise be. One of the benefits of a tang safety is that they're (usually) inherently ambi.
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