M77 7MM Remington Ultra Short Mag

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A friend just called and asked what I know about this caliber. He has a chance to buy it. He said he shot a deer with it years ago and was very happy with how quickly it put the deer down. Any thoughts on this gun or caliber would be appreciated.
 
When Winchester introduced their 300, 270, 7mm, and 325 WSM cartridges a few years ago they were picked up by several manufacturers and sold for a year or so. But the man (Rick Jamison) who developed the idea for the WSM cartridges sued Winchester claiming they had stolen his idea. Jamison had approached Winchester a few months earlier with his idea and offered to sell them the rights. Winchester declined, but the cartridges they introduced were identical. Jamison won the lawsuit and at the time received a royalty for every WSM rifle and box of ammo sold. I'm not sure if that still applies. I know there was a time limit.

Winchester was required to keep manufacturing the WSM's, but Remington and Ruger didn't want to pay the royalties so they developed their own short magnum cartridges that were enough different that they could sell them and not have to pay Jamison.

All of those cartridges will shoot the same bullet weights around 50 fps slower than a conventional magnum in the same caliber. But they are a little more efficient burning less powder with a little less recoil. They are also in short action rifles which can mean a little lighter more compact rifle. In a nutshell it will come VERY close to 7mm RM performance.

But none of the Remington or Ruger short magnums ever caught on. Finding ammo or even brass to reload could be a challenge in the not so distant future. The 300 and 270 WSM's have a strong enough following that they are going to be around. Maybe never an extremely popular cartridge, but they won't die off like the SAUM and RCM cartridges have.
 
I have no direct experience with the 7 SAUM but I have a friend that recently started shooting it in F Class. He’s optimistic about it’s accuracy potential.

You didn’t say what rifle he’s looking at or what his intended purpose for it would be.

If he’s not a reloader he might have trouble finding ammo. If he does reload ADG makes brass

That’s about all I can say about it
 
I like the Rsaum, and RCM, designs better than their slightly longer Winchester counterparts, at least in sub 3" actions.
I'd happily buy a 7Rsaum, in the right rifle.
 
My friend said he has shot this rifle and killed a deer with it. He said the deer dropped in its tracks. The older gentleman that owns it is no longer hunting and wants it to go to a good home. I told him if he buy the dies he could use my equipment to reload his own ammo. I really like my Ruger M77 rifles and just was looking for input from from other who have used this caliber.
 
Think the power of a .280 Ackley Improved in a short action. Not as powerful as the 7mm Remington Magnum. It's a hand loader's cartridge though.

ETA: Go to Nosler's site and compare the load data for the 7mm SAUM and the .280 Ackley. Pretty close to ballistic twins.
 
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I always thought the point of it was to put .300WM like ballistics in gas guns like the AR10. I do like the M77 I have though. Probably plenty enough to facilitate a humane take of any North American game.
 
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