Archon Type B... beavertail "contour"

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I like interesting firearms and the Archon Type B qualifies as interesting.

It's also leaning on the more expensive side, causing me to be a bit more picky about it "features".

The feature I have questions about is what Archon describes as this:

"Integrated beavertail with featured contour to activate tendon in hand for better grip."

It looks more to me like necessary structural support that they may be selling as a "feature" rather than a trade-off. However, I could be wrong.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Archon Type B? If so, what's your take on this contour (or possible structural brace)? Does it actually cause the grip to involuntarily tighten up recoil or is this simply slick marketing? Does this feature become noticeable and annoying over the range session or is it inconspicuous as I've heard some say?

Thanks in advance.
 
While I have no experience with the gun I’ll give you my opinion on that feature/benefit in the grip.

For the photo I had to twist my hand. But just hold something in a firing gun “grip” position and take the finger on your other hand and pull back on the web of your
gripping hand. I can feel my grip tighten up a bit. Is it enough to actually enhance your grip? For me, no. And that’s coming from a guy with nerve damage
In his hands and has an embarrassingly weak grip for a grown-ass man.

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I think the gun has other more important features that make it worth consideration. If I ever buy that gun I would probably sand that protrusion off because
I’m sure it would bother me during recoil.
 
I've fired one (local range has one as a rental). Only reason I didn't immediately buy one is because they were sold out everywhere at the time. I liked it for plenty of other reasons, had nothing to do with the grip thing. I do own its predecessor (Arsenal Strike One) which has the same "feature". It's not noticeable to me in any way when shooting. That's not to say whether it's a legitimate benefit or not, just that I don't notice it. I suspect the only way to know for sure if it makes a difference would be to get two identical guns, shave the "rib" off of one, and shoot them both...
 
I have no experience with this gun. I've never heard of this maker nor seen one of these.

I'll note that the, "Integrated beavertail with featured contour to activate tendon in hand for better grip." is placed between the thumb and the trigger finger. It's not clear to me which tendon it's supposed to be "activating" for a better grip. The trigger finger doesn't usually "grip" much of anything. The thumb does, but...

Could be it helps by eliminating any space between the web of the hand and the rear of the pistol, this could allow for better recoil control, maybe. It could also be a wedge of plastic that irritates the web of the hand.

As I said I have not seen one of these. So my opinion may be worth nothing.

Be wary of gizmos is always good advice.

I will not buy this gun because of the gizmo. But if it was a good gun at a decent price i might buy it to try out despite the gizmo. If I did I'd report back on whether it "activated" my tendons or just irritated them.
 
I got to shoot one a little bit today.
I didn't feel activated. The grip was comfortable but with Glockish rake. Good striker trigger.
Wonder if they will offer a Model A 5".
 
If memory serves the internal frame had to have steel as part of the insert where the hump/strut in the grip is. It's not a feature, but an engineering and ergonomics compromise. That said the Strike One I handled a few years ago wasn't objectionable in the grip department.

I would be very very cautious about buying one of these pistols, Arsenal had a heck of time introducing them and took a long time to release a version that worked right. The original guns are now orphans with no support. The current supplier/importer/manufacturer is also small, the guns are pricey, and frankly the platform could very easily be orphaned again leaving early adopters high and dry. Buy with caution and only if you can afford to have a very expensive paper weight if something breaks. Remember the Hudson H9 debacle? Not saying this one shares the same fate, but don't be surprised if it does.
 
When I first fired mine, I totally forgot about that dingus under the beavertail. Eventually I remembered it was there and could slightly feel it. I cannot tell you if it made my grip any tighter but I can say it does not bother me.

Bart Noir
 
I got to look at a used one in a local shop. The web in the grip looked like it would be annoying, but I really didnt notice it when the gun was in my hand.

I had watched a couple of review videos on the gun before I went over to look at it, and it looked interesting. Wasnt as impressed once I got to see it in person though. For what they wanted for it, and it wasnt cheap, even used, I didnt see it doing anything better than my Glocks.

One thing that struck me as not cool about the gun is, you have to watch the mag release doesnt fall out while inserting the mag in the gun. Its a reversible mag catch, and youre supposed to put the mag in backward to release it to change it, but it can and will also release when inserting it properly.

You can see it here at around 2:10....

 
The mag release does not fall out when the magazine is inserted correctly. The video does not show this happening. It shows the release coming out when and only when the magazine is inserted backwards (bullets to the rear).

Bart Noir
 
The mag release does not fall out when the magazine is inserted correctly. The video does not show this happening. It shows the release coming out when and only when the magazine is inserted backwards (bullets to the rear).

Bart Noir

Yup, and like when has anyone here ever inserted a mag backwards?

I know I never have, even with severe brain disconnect during competition.
 
While I have no experience with the gun I’ll give you my opinion on that feature/benefit in the grip.

For the photo I had to twist my hand. But just hold something in a firing gun “grip” position and take the finger on your other hand and pull back on the web of your
gripping hand. I can feel my grip tighten up a bit. Is it enough to actually enhance your grip? For me, no. And that’s coming from a guy with nerve damage
In his hands and has an embarrassingly weak grip for a grown-ass man.

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I think the gun has other more important features that make it worth consideration. If I ever buy that gun I would probably sand that protrusion off because
I’m sure it would bother me during recoil.
OT,but Beautiful job with your wall.
 
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