Skylerbone
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Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4x20, Aero Precision Mount. All about choices.
A Revolutionary New AR that weighs 5 pounds
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R.W.Dale
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A couple years back I set out to build a light Ar for deer hunting in hill county
nothing exotic, just light parts
lightweight ??? 300blk bbl
Cav15 poly lower
Taccom poly buffer
2x7x32 scope
nothing exotic, just light parts
lightweight ??? 300blk bbl
Cav15 poly lower
Taccom poly buffer
2x7x32 scope
gotboostvr
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Those CAV15 lowers are great for LW builds. I wouldn't mind one myself.
The original M16 weighed about 6.5 pounds. It was a joy to carry, but functioned like crap. So they took it, added a couple + pounds and a bunch of doodads and now say it functions. The original idea was a light weight easy to carry rifle. It ain't that anymore.
So now folks are trying to turn them back into lightweights. How do they function?
So now folks are trying to turn them back into lightweights. How do they function?
Skylerbone
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Well guys are building 3.5 lb. rifles and guys are building 15 lb. rifles so the evolution has not been a one-direction march; it’s expanded to encompass many uses.
How do they function? Well, IME those I’ve purchased have been flawless to date with most range sessions limited to 90-150 rounds and an occasional 300 rounds.
Of those I’ve assembled, and guys who’ve read through my at times misadventures know I’m no expert, they too have performed as expected. In fact the only failure I’ve had to date was with my 7.5 and that was when testing an H3 buffer which was only about 90% reliable. Swapping back to an H2 put things back in order.
On a larger scale I feel the military has answered the reliability question many times over in my lifetime.
DerMerchant
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I don't think the steady increase in weight was an effort to make the rifle more reliable(save for heavier buffers), but rather to add a way to attach accessories as technology advanced, with both the accessories and the means to mount them adding weight. We even transitioned to shorter carbines being the standard but they keep getting heavier. I think the WWSD project has the right idea, keeping the rifle light while retaining the ability to mount accesories. Though I'm not sure how well an ir laser would hold zero on a carbon fiber handguard
Demi-human
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Now they’re just lighter pieces of junk. Best for you to steer clear.
They probably still don’t work, sixty five years later, being massed produced by the thousands at a time and being sold as fast as they’re made, to millions of users, literally across the planet. In the widest array of variations and setups and cartridges and job uses of any rifle before.
All of these rifles probably don’t work.
Bwahahahahahaaa!
Okay, seriously now.
Really? Come on.The first trucks had their wooden spokes break from the turning stresses at speed.
I was thinking about getting a Chevy next month.
You reckon they got that problem fixed yet?
Skylerbone
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daniel craig
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Would be more impressive if they could make it weigh 5 pounds and still be piston driven.
Demi-human
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That’s easy. Just incredibly expensive.
Just buy a super lite factory rifle and put a piston on it to bring it up to five...
https://www.vsevenweaponsystems.com/20-224-valkyrie-enlightened-rifle/
Here is one that is “Around five pounds” yet still has a 20” barrel. It too has a unique metallurgy in the receivers, it also has a list of components in the build, many being titanium, and lists the exact weight of the finished rifle. (I chose this example instead of their full on Racing Rigs, because I like it. The 16” Enlightened is 4lbs 10.6 ounces. One is 6 oz. lighter, and priced accordingly.
)As much as I don't like Hipoint. They are firmly backed by a good warranty. They also don't try to woo you with BS and a high price point.
I'm not an AR guru. So I'll leave the rest to the ones that know.
Lol. That can’t be fun toting around all day. And I thought my Sharps was heavy.
CapnMac
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Well, the company is no more, and the moulds were scrapped.
However, Brownell's is selling the next generation version (or will be in a month or so). Which will be helped by the fact that Russel Fagin of KE Arms was a part of the decision team to buy up the assets of CAV Arms, and was able to apply a lot of "lessons learned" in the next generation production.
marksman13
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I was thinking about getting a Chevy next month.
You reckon they got that problem fixed yet?
Spokes? Yes. Transmissions? No. My 2017 Silverado has less than 30K miles and needs a transmission. Under warranty they first have to flush the transmission, wait 2000 miles, then replace the torque converter before they will actually replace the transmission. At least that’s what the dealership says. Also have issues with the radio being completely possessed and changing stations, swapping from Bluetooth to XM to FM and whatever the heck else it wants to do, CONSTANTLY! This was my first and last GM purchase. God help the next person whom buys this truck.
gotboostvr
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I'm well aware and patiently waiting. I've been trying to buy my buddies for a few years to build a LW 20" on.
Mosin Bubba
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Same here. I love the A1 fixed stocks as it is, any if I can get one in a full lightweight receiver for cheap? I'm in. Gonna slap a 16" free float pencil upper and a red dot on it.
CapnMac
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LoL!
Entirely on the same page with this.
Mind, that's the premise of the KP-15, too. Not just light weight but also well balanced. hence the CF front tube and the Faxxon pencil barrel. And a quality trigger and ambi bolt release.
Trouble is, when I price the parts out, it's not that far off the MSRP of $1700 [
]You do realize that all ARs are driven by a piston
gotboostvr
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I think he means poison rod, similar to a Kalshnikov, not direct gas impingement.
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*Sigh* ARs do not use a direct impingement system. One difference is the AR gas system uses an expansion chamber for greater mechanical advantage. Direct impingement systems do not.
Tommygunn
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*Sigh* I know you're right. You know you're right. We all know you're right.
But ARs are ALWAYS going to be called direct impingement. The name is stuck with Guerilla Glue onto the minds of American gun enthusiasts.
Just live with it.
It ain't goin' away .....
gotboostvr
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*Sigh*
While technically correct, it is the commonly accepted nomenclature for the standard AR gas system. You knew what he was taking about either way.
OP, I truly hope your rifle works for you and lives up to your expectations. We'd love to hear a full break down on it when you are able to get to the range. For now, we are done.
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