FL Gov DeSantis proposes "anti-mob" extension to "Stand Your Ground"

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I believe the expansion of this to protect private business is a good thing. No, this doesn't mean "shoot 'em all" But like said above, looting and destruction of "community service asset" property impacts more than just the owner. Many stories are coming out of some of the worst of the riot areas that the people that live around there don't have grocery stores to buy food at. Most of the businesses they use to maintain their lifestyle have been ripped apart and some will never open again. I for one can easily see how I would be greatly impacted if I had to go out of county to buy food and clothing. That's more than just an inconvenience.

Some businesses are vital to support these communities and those most impacted by the loss should be able to band together and defend "Private property that by it's nature is a community asset" As an example, I own a property that has a water well that supplies a fairly large community. If that well is destroyed in a local riot after some career thug gets his ticket punched, then hundreds of people are going to suffer because a few "Disaffected Youths" want to use it as an excuse to cause mayhem. I strongly suspect that very few of the rioters even knew the criminal in Minnesota prior to his drug induced death.

Keep in mind, while the majority of people are fairly well meaning and even harmlessly self absorbed, there exists a % of the populace that just want to watch the world burn solely for the entertainment of it all. And they use every excuse they can find to light the match. Same group is usually the first in line screaming "Gimme my free stuff"
 
OK. I read the whole thread again.... OP "Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has proposed extending the state's "Stand Your Ground" to allow armed citizens to use lethal force against looters and violent protestors. Any number of news outlets are reporting and easily found by googling; I share the top link here:"

Corpral_Agarn, post: "I think the bold is the rub. That's the way it's supposed to be and why we pay for those services. Unfortunately, We are seeing peoples life's work/properties destroyed and the national guard/LE are not stopping it. At some point, you are going to see citizens defending their businesses/property. The LA riots are still a stark example of citizens doing just that. LE had abandoned the city to burn. Some citizens did not accept the burning/looting and, for their community, prevented it. I really don't know about this 'law' or policy that being discussed as I have not seen the actual draft or anything yet. I really really do not want to see anyone shot/killed/injured over property, but I do recognize that at some point, people legally or illegally are going to defend their businesses/property."

I was commenting more on the "take" the members here were expressing rather than the context of the proposed change.
 
OK. I read the whole thread again.... OP "Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has proposed extending the state's "Stand Your Ground" to allow armed citizens to use lethal force against looters and violent protestors. Any number of news outlets are reporting and easily found by googling; I share the top link here:"
The content of the article is not congruent with the draft of the proposed legislation in any way.

I was commenting more on the "take" the members here were expressing rather than the context of the proposed change.
And they, for the most part, were commenting on the inaccurate article.

Keep in mind that the LA riots did not occur in an era in which prosecutors must prosecute defenders to the hilt , whether it is appropriate or not, or lose their careers.

The car dealer in Kenosha lost everything, and will not be paid by his insurer. Yet a person defending his own life is in jail, charged with murder.
 
As the OP of this thread, I'd like to make clear that I'm asking for opinions to be expressed on the proposed legislation, NOT on the news reports about it. I think it's fairly clear at this point that the news reports are not accurate with respect to either the intent or the text of the draft legislation.

More specifically with respect to the proposed legislation, proposed discussion about:
1) what would this legislation, if enacted, allow the law-abiding armed citizen to do? And under what circumstances?
2) does this extension of "stand your ground" give any additional protection to lethal use of force to defend property? And whose property?
3) is this legislation, as written, an expression of the Second Amendment?
 
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1) what would this legislation, if enacted, allow the law-abiding armed citizen to do? And under what circumstances?
Nothing more than he is allowed today, as I read it.

does this extension of "stand your ground" give any additional protection to lethal use of force to defend property? And whose property?
Not as I read it, and I cannot understand why this proposed new bill could be thought to have anything at all to do with "stand your ground".

3) is this legislation, as written, an expression of the Second Amendment?
Completely independent.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...argeting-businesses/ar-BB1aTD5M?ocid=msedgdhp

"The draft legislation also includes measures that would make protesting which disrupts the public by blocking traffic, a third degree felony. The law would also reportedly grant immunity to drivers who unintentionally kill or injure protesters who were blocking traffic.

Additionally the law would allow the state to withhold funds from local governments that cut police budgets."
 
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