Rugers purchase of Marlin.
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CapnMac
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Which means "Maybe Q4" like as not.
??? I'm remembering that Remington shut the Marlin production line down a year ago (or a bankruptcy ago). But, I could be remembering wrong.
Sale was for IP and for owned-outright tools and tooling, not for the factory buildings. Again, that's from memory--potentially faulty. But, that was also part of why the sale was so cheap, too. Been a while since we beat this to death in the other two (maybe three) thread.
Marlin already had an encyclopedia on the barrel, Remington, in the end removed it. I too like my two Remington Marlins equal or better than my JM Marlins, not giving up any of them.
Ruger has stated they plan for Marlin to resume production late 2021, or second half. I would expect a phased resumption only being logical.
Me too, I never was a member of the Remington hate club:
It was more like 2010, about a decade ago that Remington wound up with Marlin and moved the production to their facilities. Now Ruger has acquired the IP, rights and some machinery from Remington and is per Ruger's statements relocating the purchased equipment and setting up new CNC cells to resume Marlin production in their facilities.
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No affect is my bet. The JM Marlins were manufactured by the historic Marlin company, the Remington and Ruger Marlins are were and will be built to the same design and art as the JM Marlins but will not be from the historic company but instead it's legitimate successor(s) with all rights to the name and product and the lineage is unbroken. Not the same as creating a new company and naming it after a long defunct company and with none or but one of the products having historic lineage, art or design to the name.
Elkins45
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I’m still waiting for someone to produce a lever gun that accepts AR magazines, preferably in 350 Legend or 458 SOCOM. There’s a gold mine waiting to be tapped in ban states.
You can’t call it a “high capacity” magazine when it only holds seven (very fat) rounds.
You can’t call it a “high capacity” magazine when it only holds seven (very fat) rounds.
gotboostvr
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Now THAT'S an idea. The mag restriction only applies to semiautos if I'm not mistaken (at least in some areas).
351 WINCHESTER
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Most of us would be better off with a real Marlin. I know I would.
cdb1
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I’ve never been a Remington hater either. I hope somehow the 700 is re-released by someone.
johnmcl
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I want the Marlin 39A back in production. There are legions of grand kids who need this gun for their first exposure to the shooting world.
Tentwing
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John McL ……… you are 100% correct sir
Daveboone
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Ruger makes a living using very different manufacturing processes (I think its called wax casting/investment molding?) than Marlin/Remington did...I would imagine that they would want to change over the Marlin designs to thier mfg. capability and standards. I would be surprised if the model 60 .22 (which I love) was resurrected...Ruger already makes a competing and similarly priced .22. My guess is that they want to center in on the traditional lever action market which Marlin was so good at., and which Ruger never really entered.
gotboostvr
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Ruger has the machinery to do multiple types of manufacturing processes. They're a very large company. Bigger than you'd probably think.
I'd be willing to bet they'd bring the Mod 60 back. Think about it this way, not everyone wants a 10/22. Used to be, their biggest competitor was the Mood 60. By far the biggest share of the semi auto 22 rifle segment is those two. Not many 10/22 haters are gonna buy one just cause the Mod 60 isn't around.
By having both, they pretty much own the market.
I read at least two articles that mentioned and a half way inside report that Ruger was setting up new manufacturing cells with both new machinery and CNC mills and acquired machines from the purchase that would be dedicated to Marlin production.
The investment casting has been discussed now multiple times and the consensus is that Ruger could (though I doubt they will) for the legacy rifles use investment casting for the receivers. The reason I doubt it is that they just spent $30 million in part purchasing the CNC data to mill the rifles. The model that I expect, if it comes back (fingers crossed) that may find investment cast parts and simplification and modernization to accommodate mass production is the (New) Model 39(X). If for no other reason that to keep the bragging rights for the longest produced model series rifle in the world.
Investment cast or milled from bar stock, as long as the result is indiscernible from the original rifles and I can drop the hammer with confidence on a hot .45-70 round without the rifle blowing apart, I am good.
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johnmcl
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Superior photos, Tentwing, and my point is made.
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Wait a second.... you act as if all those Lincoln, Hurco and Fadal can only do one thing! A large production multi-axis machine is someplace between $500k and $750k (very rough terms... lots of variables). Ruger is no slouch for doing things inexpensively and easily. They are also known for putting production into place very rapidly (in relative terms). Ruger can turn on a manufacturing dime. They invest in the tooling to make that happen. Whatever means they choose to make receivers, or any other part, it may be the same as, or different from the "Marlin/Remington" tooling that was currently in use.
In fact, the purchase of the company is not all about the manufacturing assets, but about the rights of design and name use. Ruger could very well liquidate any of those assets, retaining the rights to the designs and full use of the Marlin name and all that goes with it.
I am sure there will be a change over period as Ruger decides what to do "The Ruger Way". And, I sure hope it doesn't slow down their golf club production!
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What will be interesting will be to see how Ruger can make their casting work for a lever action. I suspect some serious engineering involved before production startsThe biggest hurdle for Ruger is to maintain their attention to detail and quality. Can't wait to see those wonderful lever actions in the gun shops. New JM quality rifles would be great
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If they can cast a Mini-14, they can cast a levergun. They DID cast a lever gun in the past lets not forget.
Legionnaire
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Would there be sufficient clearance to work the lever with an AR magazine hanging below the action? You'd also lose the "carry-ability" of the lever gun as the mag would be right where one would grab it if carrying one handed.
Elkins45
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It would be an interesting engineering challenge. Maybe they just need to reintroduce the Remington 7615. It was a pump carbine that accepted AR mags.
Legionnaire
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I'm familiar with the 7615 ...
Elkins45
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They could always take the Sten approach and stick the magazine out the side
DeepSouth
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I’m interested to see if they will make anything chambered in the .450 Marlin or if they’ll let it die. I know it’s not popular at all but I love my 1895m in 450, hopefully they’ll keep it around but somehow I have my doubts.
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