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Well, I've shot the vast majority of my deer with iron sights. Talk about chintzing out!
Why do people chintz out on scopes?
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Well, I've shot the vast majority of my deer with iron sights. Talk about chintzing out!
dranrab
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Well, I've shot the vast majority of my deer with iron sights. Talk about chintzing out!
If they weren't Trijicon Iron Sights, you were doing the animals a disservice.
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Many years ago I went snowmobile riding with some neighbors. It was COLD, like maybe -10 degrees cold. I had a John Deere snow suit and John Deere gloves. They had some Walmart outfits. “Good enough”
We are out maybe twenty minutes and his wife stops. She is freezing. I mean close to hypothermia cold, so we go back to the house. She is about my size, so we switch suits. I can understand now why she’s cold, as I’m freezing and I didn’t get cold easily. It was brutal
So, we finish the night. I said “so, you gonna get some Deere suits now?”.
“Naw....too much money. Going to Walmart tomorrow to get something different.” Wow.
I’ve killed more deer with an 870 with a $50 Busnhell Sportview 4x than anything else. Dozens. I was very fortunate that it held zero with a 3” slug gun. But it would have been more enjoyable with a nicer scope that didn’t fog and I could have seen clearly in low light.
We are out maybe twenty minutes and his wife stops. She is freezing. I mean close to hypothermia cold, so we go back to the house. She is about my size, so we switch suits. I can understand now why she’s cold, as I’m freezing and I didn’t get cold easily. It was brutal
So, we finish the night. I said “so, you gonna get some Deere suits now?”.
“Naw....too much money. Going to Walmart tomorrow to get something different.” Wow.
I’ve killed more deer with an 870 with a $50 Busnhell Sportview 4x than anything else. Dozens. I was very fortunate that it held zero with a 3” slug gun. But it would have been more enjoyable with a nicer scope that didn’t fog and I could have seen clearly in low light.
Tsk tsk tsk! Meprolight is the way to go after dusk. Accept no substitutes. There's no chance a gun equipped with Trijicon or, heaven forbid, shop brand generic irons would kill anything even at a contact shot.
(As a matter of fact I HAVE shot a roe deer w/ 11-87 slugger & Meprolight irons in little more than moonlight, which was a bit of a stretch but still doable. Obviously because I saw where to aim and what to aim with...
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Izzy77
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You do realize "dranrab" in post # 312 mentioned he has Meopro...Meopta are usually very good in low light.
I do think Meopta's medium to high end line are GTG in low light. I do preffer the ones made in the Czech Republic as the factory there has slightly higher standards base on limited experiance.
In regard to Tasco:
As for old Tasco's I think it depends on when/where it was made. The glass on the Japanese made lenses were good ( if lacking modern coatings), I however inherited a Japanese made 3-9X Tasco ( a gunshow trade by a relative). The elevation turret is simply broken, the outside looks in great shape, the view is good in normal light, but if I ever wanted to use it I would have to replace it's guts with something decent...not worth my time.
Another Budget Japanese scope to consider is SWFA Super Sniper fixed line...when they become available again. They do have a touch of blurring on the edges, just like many MODERN Japanese lenses ( including Fujinon Binocs!), but are other wise decent, and the construction on them is reputed to be good. ( Caveat: I did not test it in low light).
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Of course. You do realize that the "mediocre scopes" anecdote concerned his claim that his Revolution scopes do the exact same thing. Personally I'd put any Meopta, even a Meopro, to pretty much the opposite end of spectrum compared to Redfields and would be hard pressed to substitute any Meopta with one in anything less than optimal shooting conditions. Simply owning something doesn't constitute perspective or insight by default, otherwise every rap star with a Lamborghini would instantly be Mario Andretti. Well, Paul Newman was a notable exception; not by owning high-end equipment but using it at its very limits for years on end and gaining invaluable first hand experience of how everything behaves in real life.
Izzy77
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Yes that was the other 1/2 of the line I omitted, so long as Dan sticks with the Meopta's in low light he is fine. I agree they are on a diffrent level entirely ( quality of Construction AND optically).
On a side note, I never drove a Porche, but I sat in the passenger seat as my Doctor friend took a 90 degree turn at 60+ MPH without breaking, and I was impressed how easily the (almost) top teir Porche took the turn . ( It did have racing tires but was only a 2 wheel drive). Paul Newman was a gem of a Human.
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That is exactly what I pointed out.
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